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I'll be in winter park on Monday and wanted to practice this course for the race the following weekend. Does anyone know what trial or what course this race will follow or has in the past?
super-D at WP generally is Shy Anne to Long Trail from Five Points. You start with a run on fire road, a little climbing on fire road then drop down shy anne until five points. Climb up Long Trail and then Long trail to the bottom perhaps with that silly new section across to boulevard finish.suicideMike said:I'll be in winter park on Monday and wanted to practice this course for the race the following weekend. Does anyone know what trial or what course this race will follow or has in the past?
because the xc guys will go around the jumps. SuperD's should have the worst gnar on the DH... Super D's cater too much to XC bikes... IMHO.Pau11y said:How's about taking it down Bootcamp for last leg?![]()
So, "super" should be changed to "spendex"?IndecentExposure said:because the xc guys will go around the jumps. SuperD's should have the worst gnar on the DH... Super D's cater too much to XC bikes... IMHO.
Funny you mention that, considering the last time I rode down Boot Camp on my XC bike (After the Hill Climb) I hit all the jumps, in full sausage casing, while passing a number of people on DH bikes. And yes, my seatpost was at full extension, despite the condescending warnings of the race official: "We urge you to descend the trails after the race, but this is a bike park, you WILL get into trouble with your saddle up." Or something obnoxious like that.IndecentExposure said:because the xc guys will go around the jumps. SuperD's should have the worst gnar on the DH... Super D's cater too much to XC bikes... IMHO.
Ok, sure.. There are always a few mutants out there that blow the power curve. But even though you are so fast that you vaporize people on DH bikes, don't you think you might be able to do so even faster on something a little more... All-mountain-y? I mean, if you think you're fast now, wait until you ride a bike set up for that type of terrain. Or maybe you have some deficiency or handicap that completely inhibits your ability to ride big-boy bikes while at the same time dramatically increases your riding ability on and XC bike.perioeci said:Funny you mention that, considering the last time I rode down Boot Camp on my XC bike (After the Hill Climb) I hit all the jumps, in full sausage casing, while passing a number of people on DH bikes. And yes, my seatpost was at full extension, despite the condescending warnings of the race official...
If you look at the photos from last year, 90% of racers are wearing their regular helmets. Very few pads, also.singletrackspeeder said:I am thinking about racing this one also, never done a Super D, do guys wear full face helmets? Probably wouldn't hurt eh? Unless the climbs are really long???
Brevity would have better suited such an obvious response. There are too many assumptions in there to bother with a rebuttal.subliminalshiver said:Ok, sure.. There are always a few mutants out there that blow the power curve. But even though you are so fast that you vaporize people on DH bikes, don't you think you might be able to do so even faster on something a little more... All-mountain-y? I mean, if you think you're fast now, wait until you ride a bike set up for that type of terrain. Or maybe you have some deficiency or handicap that completely inhibits your ability to ride big-boy bikes while at the same time dramatically increases your riding ability on and XC bike.
I admire the abilities of those rare riders who perform at or above the peer level on undergunned or even antiquated bikes. It's amazing to see somebody ripping along a gnarly trail on a 1996 paramount spinning psycho-k's... Kinda in the same way it's wild to see guys riding Muni's.
However.... when that charm wears off I am left a little sad. I am left to wonder what someone with so much talent could have done with appropriate/modern equipment. What could Einstein have done with a graphing calculator or Large Hadron Collider? What could Tesla have done with a Logic analyzer? Fausto Coppi with EPO?
The world will never know.
I'd say if you're uncomfortable riding in the vicinity of, and attempting to pass, others at a decent speed without a full-face, then wear it.singletrackspeeder said:I am thinking about racing this one also, never done a Super D, do guys wear full face helmets? Probably wouldn't hurt eh? Unless the climbs are really long???
Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!perioeci said:Brevity would have better suited such an obvious response. There are too many assumptions in there to bother with a rebuttal.
Besides, won't IndecentExposure come on here claiming his insinuation that XC racers are a bunch of skill-less hacks was stated in good-natured jest, and that I shouldn't take myself too seriously? Except that I've already done it for him.
Finally, I think I've spent as much money on my "All-mountain-y" bike and "All-mountain-y" gear as I have on my Spendex. Here's my assumption: If you saw me in two separate instances while out riding the trails, once wearing my sausage casing and riding my "undergunned" bike, and anothertime wearing my brah-suit and riding my "all-mountain-y" bike, you'd be incapable of looking past the uniform and making your own judgements about my character and riding ability. I'm tired of all of the people who perpetuate cliches and stereotypes.
IF you have the opportunity to bring both, do. Check out the course during a cruising-speed practice run and see what you're comfortable with.singletrackspeeder said:I am thinking about racing this one also, never done a Super D, do guys wear full face helmets? Probably wouldn't hurt eh? Unless the climbs are really long???
Did you read any of the posts I was refering to? Did you read my original one? Doesn't seem like it.subliminalshiver said:Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA!
Take it easy on the haterade. All I meant was that Mario Andretti could go faster in a Formula 1 racer than in a Buick. Jebus. The point I apparently failed to make was that skill can transcend equipment, but skill with appropriate equipment is synergistic. You want to be all DH aggro in your self-described "sausage casing" and your XC bike than go for it. Although after your response I think a better description would be "body condom" as it apparently covers a total d!ck. I really don't care what you wear or what you ride, but you certainly do. Nor do I care how much money you spend on well... on anything actually.
You seem to be having a stressful day. Maybe this is normal. In either case I hope you have a pleasant 4th. Go light some snakes or sparklers or something.