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Other than preferring black over gray, can anyone give me a good reason to pay $30 more for the Time roc atac carbon pedal vs roc atac composite? I'm going back to old style Time pedals and have decided on this pedal. Just can't find a justification for the extra $30 when both weigh the same.
 

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AndrwSwitch said:
I like the Alium better than the ROC ATAC.
Have you used both? The Times I used for years were the yellow, square block ones (carbon something?). They worked well and are just now wearing a bit thin at the spindle bearings. I replaced them with Shimano PD-M970's and am not quite satisfied with their mud performance.
 

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I have the Aliums, the ROC Carbons and the old style, rectangular Time ATACs.

They all feel exactly the same to use.
 

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I thought rock strikes might scratch the Carbons less...
... and the black looks nicer :)
 

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womble said:
I have the Aliums, the ROC Carbons and the old style, rectangular Time ATACs.

They all feel exactly the same to use.
The ROCs look they might provide a better platform on those technical starts on a steep climb when you when you have to start grunt pedaling immediately and don't have the luxury of clicking in (unless you get lucky when your foot first hits the pedal).
 

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Shuteye said:
The ROCs look they might provide a better platform on those technical starts on a steep climb when you when you have to start grunt pedaling immediately and don't have the luxury of clicking in (unless you get lucky when your foot first hits the pedal).
Are you referring the the Time Zs? They're the ones with the platforms.

The amount of platform on the Aliums, ROCs and the old classics are about the same. Though in any case, clipping in isn't a matter of luck- I can click in instantly on the smaller platform pedals.
 

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The ROC body is a little larger and flatter than the ATAC XS (etc). Enough to feel more solid even under a stiff shoe.
 

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perttime said:
The ROC body is a little larger and flatter than the ATAC XS (etc). Enough to feel more solid even under a stiff shoe.
That was my impression. Plus, I want steel retention bars and don't want the XS setup where you can get your cleat knocked loose if your pedal strikes a rock. My pedals are well scarred within a month of riding.
 

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womble said:
Are you referring the the Time Zs? They're the ones with the platforms.
I have considered them, but think they are a bit heavy for long single track rides with lots of short steep grunt climbs combined with some long steep grunt climbs (mile or more).

Though in any case, clipping in isn't a matter of luck- I can click in instantly on the smaller platform pedals.
Then you ain't ridin' what I'm ridin', especially when your legs are gassed, you've just spun out in the middle of a steep rocky climb, and it's either get started again or shoulder your bike (and sometimes, it's shoulder my bike :madman:).
 

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perttime said:
I thought rock strikes might scratch the Carbons less...
... and the black looks nicer :)
Good points, I needed the push ... so I just pulled the trigger on some carbon ROC's on eBay. What's $30 over the course of a few years anyhow?
 

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My experience with the carbons is that with every rock strike = less pedal mass! Yes, they would literally shed chunks of the pedal body (mainly the leading edges) whenever you struck a rock. Not great. Bebops for me (plus they work tits on the roadie).
 

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Dugg-E said:
My experience with the carbons is that with every rock strike = less pedal mass! Yes, they would literally shed chunks of the pedal body (mainly the leading edges) whenever you struck a rock. Not great. Bebops for me (plus they work tits on the roadie).
Ouch! Don't tell me that! As I said earlier, I just committed to buying the carbon ROC's. Maybe the composite ROC's would have been better. Oh well, I'll ride 'em until they die. At least they'll keep getting lighter. Gotta be better than the PD-M970's.
 

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Shuteye said:
Have you used both? The Times I used for years were the yellow, square block ones (carbon something?). They worked well and are just now wearing a bit thin at the spindle bearings. I replaced them with Shimano PD-M970's and am not quite satisfied with their mud performance.
Yeah. I still use my ROC ATACs, since I'm a cheapskate, but they're my 'B' Time pedal. I think they're on my shelf, not on a bike right now.

The little metal things with the funny pattern on them get damaged easily if I hit something with my pedal, and I could swear they didn't have as much float.

I'm actually really curious about the Bebops. If they work well on my MTB and have as much float as my Speedplays, I could have just one pair of shoes and use only one pedal system across all my bikes. Which would make me happy. Looks like a lower Q-factor than Times too... I'll have to try a set one of these days.
 

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I've been riding the ROC Carbons for 6 months with occasional heavy pedal strike. The bodies have cosmetic scratches but nothing worse than that.

Same with my 2002 plastic bodies- they are still intact. The only pedals that show significant scratching are the Aliums because Aluminium is so easily abraided. But even they are in completely functional shape after 3 years.
 

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My old ATAC XS pair (non-carbon) got deep cosmetic scratches too. The pedals look used but it has no effect on functioning. My ROC carbons have scratches too. I cannot really tell if the material makes a difference there.

... so I just treat the scratches the same as the scratches and minor dings on my aluminum bike's frame: they are battle scars that prove I've been using the bike for its intended purpose.
 

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I guess is shouldve mentioned that even after all the physical damage, the pedals still functioned as intended. Therefore, I cannot say they were "bad". I did sell them though.
 

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My old Aliums, which I bought in 2000, actually look eroded. I still have them, because I'm thinking about rebuilding them, I just haven't gotten to it. Alternatively, they may make an awesome paperweight if well-cleaned.
 
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