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I am debating with myself about which fork to get for the Ripley. The aim is a do-it-all-bike. I ride mostly trails, mainly rooty and techy, race a few techy marathons every season and am 6'1"/187cm and 165lbs/75kg. I want to use my current custom Crest/AC wheelset, which means 15QR. I have both Rock Shox and Fox on my bikes today and like both.

At first I was really into getting the Talas 34 untill a very bike competent friend of mine said his experiences with Talases were that the spring rate had a tendency to be a bit "funky" and uneven. Anyhow, after a rethink I feel that I should not build a bike around a 110mm travel for two reasons: it is the wrong height (should at least be 120mm) and using the the lowered setting as the main setting MIGHT not be optimal for performance.

So, back to the regular floats: it is gonna be F32 or F34? Am I gonna "need" the stiffer fork and the added pork (around 0,7 lbs/300g compared to the F32)? Or should I get the F34 just because it is a more modern design? Or is it the better fork?
Besides, will I get full travel on the F34 FIT? Not so from my current F100 FIT...

At the moment I am thinking of getting the Float F34 and use spacers to lower it to 120mm and then adjust to what lenght is best for my use.

Or what other forks should I look at?

Any and all input is welcome. The Kashima coat on the Ripley RP23 shock might be a color match issue here ;-)
 

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I've been asking myself the same questions. I've ruled out the Talas models and leaning towards the 140mm Float 32 or the Revelation WC for the weight savings. I waiting to hear more rider feedback on the Float 34.
 

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Fox would be my last choice as they never get close to full travel.With the way the 29er market is going I would wait and see what comes out for 2013 forks, because I'm sure you won't be seeing a Ripley before then.
 

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Fox would be my last choice as they never get close to full travel.With the way the 29er market is going I would wait and see what comes out for 2013 forks, because I'm sure you won't be seeing a Ripley before then.
^^this
The Ripley is probably a ways out, maybe a year?
Forks will change between now and then. RS will probably come out with a 33.5mm 29er fork:rolleyes:
 

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Yeah, I do not expect delivery until fall of 2012 at the earliest, and as you point out, the picture might have changed by then.

But, by all means, please feel free to discuss the options!
 

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yep, as discusse
you're probably looking at a 2015 fork, made by the to be newly formed SROX corporation,
featuring one 34mm stantion, one 35mm stantion and an extra 35.5mm stantion, offset for maxiumum rake, specifically made for the new 29 3/4" inch wheel standard

internals will be made from a mix of aerospace grade unotainium with an organic oil made from rendered duck fat giving an adjutable travel range from minus 7mm to 285 miles

features will include flip flop adaptors to handle, QR, 15mm, 20mm and 25mm axles, remote telescope and camera mount and not only a bottle opener built into the drop out, but, a six burner BBQ and pizza oven

probably
 

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My current plan is to go for F34 Float 140mm which option to reduce to 120mm (with spacers).

However, it might be a little premature to decide on fork a year before the bike shows up stores. However, Ibis might surprise us, it's best to be ready :)
 

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Fox would be my last choice as they never get close to full travel.With the way the 29er market is going I would wait and see what comes out for 2013 forks, because I'm sure you won't be seeing a Ripley before then.
To my experience the lack of full travel is due to the ramp up of air pressure/progressiveness at the end of the stroke due to the limited air space at full compression. With a spacered down 140 to anything less, this should not be an issue as there would be plenty of airspace left to avoid this.
 

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I'm going Lefty.... again!

I have high expectations for the new Ripley... it will be replacing my Tallboy which I absolutely have a ball on - racing or all day riding.... I'm currently running a Lefty @ 120mm travel using the Project 321 tapered adapter.

I've tried other forks but always seem to come back to the Lefty: Smooth, full travel, stiff, light weight saves you almost a pound). :thumbsup:

I plan on a Lefty for the Riply as well.

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My current plan is to go for F34 Float 140mm which option to reduce to 120mm (with spacers).
This may not work as well as you may think. It's not like you're simply getting a beefier Float 32 120.

The rake on the Fox 34 is 51 mm, whereas the rake on the Fox 32 is 44 mm. On a 29er with a normal sized front tire, the difference in rake changes the trail about the same as one millimeter. In other words, the 51 mm rake fork will have about the same effective trail as a 44 mm rake fork with a one degree steeper head angle. And with the Ripley likely having an already steep head angle, going with a 51 mm rake may make the bike a little more sketchy at speed and in technical stuff.

Using the 34 at 140 mm travel instead of 120 will slacken the head angle, making the trail about the same as if you were using a 32 at 120 mm.

Math is fun.

And whoever said that 29ers can have 2 degree steeper head angle than a 26er probably hasn't actually done the math and looked at the trail figure (at least with Fox forks - I don't know the rakes of other forks).
 

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Using the 34 at 140 mm travel instead of 120 will slacken the head angle, making the trail about the same as if you were using a 32 at 120 mm.
So, lowering the F34 to 120mm is gonna get you a steering angle of roughly 72 degrees? I was thinking of going down the F34 route for more versatility (more travel outside the racing season), but now I'm probably sticking with the F32 120 to keep the steering angle standard. Lefty seems like a good idea but the price quotes I've seen are way off my ball park. Would the extra weight of the F34 be noticeable in the bike front-rear balance?

Are you guys getting full travel from the F32 120? Heard about Push High Volume Air Piston Kit that could help in such cases, but is sucks to have to modify a new premium fork.
 

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So, lowering the F34 to 120mm is gonna get you a steering angle of roughly 72 degrees? I was thinking of going down the F34 route for more versatility (more travel outside the racing season), but now I'm probably sticking with the F32 120 to keep the steering angle standard. Lefty seems like a good idea but the price quotes I've seen are way off my ball park. Would the extra weight of the F34 be noticeable in the bike front-rear balance?

Are you guys getting full travel from the F32 120? Heard about Push High Volume Air Piston Kit that could help in such cases, but is sucks to have to modify a new premium fork.
I'm waiting for the 2013 forks from RS & DT. Hopefully a carbon 120mm Sid or DT is coming with a carbon 29er forks. These two I'm sure will be plusher, get full travel (you won't get full travel from the Fox), & be way lighter. I think that F34 is going to be a real boat ancher.
 

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Using the 34 at 140 mm travel instead of 120 will slacken the head angle, making the trail about the same as if you were using a 32 at 120 mm.
However, as a brain wave that just dropped in: adding an angleset to the equation will slacken the head angle back out to the original [email protected] .
The question remains, would you want to change both the travel and angleset set up for the times when you need more travel besides the added pork? It's a hell of a lot more work that just twisting the Talas knob... (Yeah, I know running a F34 Talas @ 110mm travel will not do me any favours either, and you still have the issue with the head angle at the short travel end).

This seems to me like the classic "Jack of all trades, master of none". So the the deal with having both 120 and 140 travel in one fork is: decide which one you ride the most and stick with that.
If your answer is 140, you can add some climbing power by choosing the Talas for the occational drop to 110, but if you're mainly a 120-rider, you're stuck with 120 as the 120-built down position of the 140 get's too compromised or/and involves too much work to use the longer travel of a regular Float 140. For now.
 

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living in the alps, i would go for a F34 talas with an angleset to get maximum slack angle (i rode a satori at 68° with felt nice, and hva got a 69° paradox). 110mm is a must to be able to climb steep inclines without turteling.
I have 2 F32 29 talas (and a reba 120, a revelation 140, a sid 100, manitou 100, tried some float in 100 and 120, marzo in 140...) and like the talas damping. Does not feel so different than the float. Crank the low speed compression to prevent brake dive and go !

The idea of the lefty is nice for a light build. It's a pitty lefty's hub have such poor geometry for whell stifness
 
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