Where to find new Manitou forks??

westin · Dec 24, 2021

Can't find anything online in the US, no closeouts, no eBay, no classifieds. Specifically the Mattoc Pro 29. The likes of Jenson have some 27.5, and I've seen some Mezzers.

Due to parts shortage? Poor distribution? Fox and RS have plenty of forks roaming around, but how is someone supposed to drink the IRT kool-aid if no one is passing the juice around?

And if someone was to find one, is there no 29 offset other than 51mm?

edit: just found this, answered a bunch and then some!

Manitou Mattoc

Mattoc has been updated not that long ago color change, IRT, low friction seals etc.), I wouldn't expect anything but a sticker change, I might be wrong though, an air chamber redesign could be useful, not financially viable probably though. Stickers was changed last year. But whole chassis is...

www.mtbr.com

Sanchofula · Dec 24, 2021

westin said:
Can't find anything online in the US, no closeouts, no eBay, no classifieds. Specifically the Mattoc Pro 29. The likes of Jenson have some 27.5, and I've seen some Mezzers.

Due to parts shortage? Poor distribution? Fox and RS have plenty of forks roaming around, but how is someone supposed to drink the IRT kool-aid if no one is passing the juice around?

And if someone was to find one, is there no 29 offset other than 51mm?

edit: just found this, answered a bunch and then some!

Manitou Mattoc

Mattoc has been updated not that long ago color change, IRT, low friction seals etc.), I wouldn't expect anything but a sticker change, I might be wrong though, an air chamber redesign could be useful, not financially viable probably though. Stickers was changed last year. But whole chassis is...

www.mtbr.com

I’ll sell you mine:
https://www.pinkbike.com/u/nurseben/buysell/

Otherwise, yeah, you gotta buy from Europe and wait a month.

Just one offset per size: 48mm for 27+/29, 51mm 29+

Travel is either 100mm (80-100 adjustable) or 120mm (120-140 adjustable)

Wheel spacing is 100mm or 110mm (boost).

POAH · Dec 24, 2021

just get a mezzer if they are in stock.

SpokaneTim · Dec 24, 2021

I was also interested in picking up a Manitou fork last spring and encountered the same availability issue. I contacted Hayes directly and was informed of their production delays. What they are experiencing is no different than others in this industy. I suggest reaching out to them for an updated product delivery time.

ungod · Dec 24, 2021

Do they even still make the mattoc? The Mezzer is an upgrade in every way

Sanchofula · Dec 24, 2021

ungod said:
Do they even still make the mattoc? The Mezzer is an upgrade in every way

Yup, Mattoc is still in production, it’s their 34mm stanchion fork, machete/R7 is their 32mm fork. Mezzer is their 37mm fork.

Machete/R7 = 34
Mattoc = Pike
Mezzer = 36/38

Mezzer is not an upgrade to the Mattoc, same internals, only differ in weight, stiffness, and travel.

Mezzer is more expensive too, for many riders it’s more fork than they need.

I thought you knew that 🙄

POAH · Dec 24, 2021

Nurse Ben said:
Yup, Mattoc is still in production, it’s their 34mm stanchion fork, machete/R7 is their 32mm fork. Mezzer is their 35mm fork.

Machete/R7 = 34
Mattoc = Pike
Mezzer = 36/38

Mezzer is not an upgrade to the Mattoc, same internals, only differ in weight, stiffness, and travel.

Mezzer is more expensive too, for many riders it’s more fork than they need.

I thought you knew that 🙄

internals are not the same - air springs are different as are the dampers. Mezzer is also 37mm not 35mm

Sanchofula · Dec 24, 2021

POAH said:
internals are not the same - air springs are different as are the dampers. Mezzer is also 37mm not 35mm

Right, Mezzer is 37mm, but both have IRT, Dorado Air Spring, and HRT.
Yes, there are subtle differences, but they are quite similar.

ungod · Dec 25, 2021

I thought the mattoc and the Mezzer were about the same weight, but it looks like the mattoc is 200g less. Also didn't realize the mattoc is available in 120mm. So I get it now. My previous experience with the mattoc was at 160mm.

Dougal · Dec 25, 2021

ungod said:
Do they even still make the mattoc? The Mezzer is an upgrade in every way

Original Mattoc is due for an overhaul but not sure when a replacement will be arriving.
In 29" the Mezzer is actually lighter.

POAH · Dec 25, 2021

Nurse Ben said:
Right, Mezzer is 37mm, but both have IRT, Dorado Air Spring, and HRT.
Yes, there are subtle differences, but they are quite similar.

so apart from having a different chassis, different air spring, different damper, different IRT they are quite similar.

Sanchofula · Dec 25, 2021

Sold my Mattoc.

To the OP: pick your chassis (32, 34, 37, etc), then pick your brand. All mfgs have light, medium, and heavy duty options.

Even the lightest forks are quite stiff by today’s standards. Don’t feel like you need a bigger and heavier fork when I lighter weight one will do.

I run a Mezzer on my 29er, a Mattoc Pro on my 27.5, and a Machete on my jump bike.

Sanchofula · Dec 25, 2021

Dougal said:
Original Mattoc is due for an overhaul but not sure when a replacement will be arriving.
In 29" the Mezzer is actually lighter.

Yeah, I’m sure there’s something coming, but when is the question.

I’d like to see some coil options from Manitou.

mike_kelly · Dec 25, 2021

westin said:
Can't find anything online in the US, no closeouts, no eBay, no classifieds. Specifically the Mattoc Pro 29. The likes of Jenson have some 27.5, and I've seen some Mezzers.

Due to parts shortage? Poor distribution? Fox and RS have plenty of forks roaming around, but how is someone supposed to drink the IRT kool-aid if no one is passing the juice around?

And if someone was to find one, is there no 29 offset other than 51mm?

edit: just found this, answered a bunch and then some!

Manitou Mattoc

Mattoc has been updated not that long ago color change, IRT, low friction seals etc.), I wouldn't expect anything but a sticker change, I might be wrong though, an air chamber redesign could be useful, not financially viable probably though. Stickers was changed last year. But whole chassis is...

www.mtbr.com

www.universalcycles.com has some stock depending on the specific fork you are looking for...

aerius · Dec 25, 2021

POAH said:
so apart from having a different chassis, different air spring, different damper, different IRT they are quite similar.

They're exactly the same but completely different.

TylerVernon · Dec 25, 2021

Mattoc has been vaporware for some time now.

Mudguard · Dec 25, 2021

Nurse Ben said:
I’d like to see some coil options from Manitou.

Well there is one...

Dorado Comp

Coil Fans Rejoice! Once again, the Dorado is available with a coil option. The coil spring provides a smooth consistent feel 100% of the time with 0% of any hassle. The ABS+ Damper offers a great adjustment range, terrific reliability, and easy serviceability. The Dorado Comp is built for riders...

hayesbicycle.com

richj8990 · Dec 26, 2021

ungod said:
I thought the mattoc and the Mezzer were about the same weight, but it looks like the mattoc is 200g less. Also didn't realize the mattoc is available in 120mm. So I get it now. My previous experience with the mattoc was at 160mm.

If you want 120mm then you get the new R7 Pro.

Headoc · Dec 29, 2021

Just bought a Mezzer pro from Universal Cycles. Also an X01 cassette and X01 chain. Both of which are brutally hard to come by.

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