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When's last day riding at Ag Centre?

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Does anyone know the final day of riding at the Ag Centre? Please don't tell me it's closed already cause it's been that kind of week - drove 35 miles to Yellow River and forgot my gear bag, then went up to Blankets and face-planted over a log-stack....on the way out of the trail!!
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August 1 they are buldozing it. We just had a bigass Sorba goodby last official ride day this past Sunday. We even had an organized ride doing it backwards. 100 or so riders.

Sorry about the bad news for sure.

A few pics of Sundays event there.

Across the street we had free food and drinks. You didn't have to be a sorba member either.







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Ag centre

Crap - I was hoping to get on that trailone last time. Do you know if the trail is actually closed off now, or whether they're just going to close it off on 1st August? Maybe I can sneek in one last loop.
Too late. Since posting this, they have already started buldozing it.

Heres a link to the Sorba thread. "sniff...sob"..

http://forum.sorba.org/viewtopic.php?t=618
allanmca said:
Crap - I was hoping to get on that trailone last time. Do you know if the trail is actually closed off now, or whether they're just going to close it off on 1st August? Maybe I can sneek in one last loop.
check the Sorba site. Somebody posted that Bulldozers already took out a great bit of the trail.
Ag centre

Dammit! I was hoping for a last spin. Oh well, I guess I'll have to do Chicopee at Elatchee instead.
RIP Ag Centre!
What's up Sorba?

I heard money has been allocated for new trails in lieu of losing AG. Anyone heard of any progress towards those additional trails?

Is the money is going towards paving Chicopee! Has anyone ridden that lately? All the attempts made at eliminating rooty and rocky sections is BS. Some people just need to give it up and by a road bike or learn how to clear a beginners technical section. The erosion this irresponsible trail maintanance has caused is pathetic. I thought beginners had the G'ville College trail?

We've all known since March AG's was over still no new trails. Enough goodbyes to AG, get on with it already!

Chris
Man oh man, you must have a wheel barrow for a saddle...

T66,

...to carry around the balls you must have to come on here and tell the volunteers to "GET ON WITH IT." I don't know if you do or don't ever GET OUT THERE yourself and help build the trails, but from your statement, I suspect you don't. If you did, you'ld know who to ask for status and when's a good time to help! [email protected] fyi.

Quit your *****ing and help a little. Heck, help alot. Just quit your *****ing, either way.

As for what the city is doing with the funds they've 'promised' to use to build additional trails at Chicopee, you'll have to ask the Gainesville folks about that also.

SC
Fyi

ScubaCruz said:
T66,

...to carry around the balls you must have to come on here and tell the volunteers to "GET ON WITH IT." I don't know if you do or don't ever GET OUT THERE yourself and help build the trails, but from your statement, I suspect you don't. If you did, you'ld know who to ask for status and when's a good time to help! [email protected] fyi.

Quit your *****ing and help a little. Heck, help alot. Just quit your *****ing, either way.

As for what the city is doing with the funds they've 'promised' to use to build additional trails at Chicopee, you'll have to ask the Gainesville folks about that also.

SC
Hey Cubaskuz, I'll complain if I want, this is a forum, moron!

The fact of the matter is that the delay in building the new trails is tied up in some ego fueled, political SORBA B.S.. and at least since 2 weeks ago there is no definite plan to replace the trail.

I wouldn't go around assuming anything Cubaskruz, but I have many local trails much closer to home that I ride and maintain regularly. AG center was just a nice change up and a fun ride to catch on the way home from work. If and when they finally come to terms on the new trail I'll be there to pitch in.

Too bad there's no replacement for AG center! Shame on those who are responsible!
t66 said:
...Too bad --- Shame on those who are responsible!
Dude or what ever 't66' reps, fyi the city owned the property and through whatever wisdom, chose to save the local taxpayers money by using existing land versus buying additional property to build a school. Least that's what I heard. So, no one to BLAME.

Too too bad you're all about pointing blame. So what if those volunteering to lead the way [design the trail systems for the rest of us] do take a few weeks or months to come to a decision. They're the ones giving up their time and resources to meet, talk, scout the trails, negotiate with other interested parties.

It's your NEED TO BLAME and cast insults at those volunteering that ticked me off, as I usually don't post such derogatory replies.

My wish? If you've got constructive suggestions or ideas, let's hear them. If not, keep the negative ones to yourself.

ScubaCruz
Where is the new trail?

I agree with t66, where is the new trail and why is it taking so long? We've known for months that Ag was on it's way out, so I would hope that SORBA or someone has been working on a plan to get a new trail underway. So far I haven't heard anything except that they swapped land somewhere. My biggest fear is that they will build a clone of Chicopee Woods. Anyway, let's hope that they build something equivalent to the fast technical flow of the Ag trail. Throw in a few more jumps and longer downhills and I'd be even happier.
Aug 5th, 6pm, Elachee Center - Chapter meeting.

The Gainesville SORBA chapter is meeting to discuss the new trail possibilities. Though it's a SORBA meeting, the pubic is always welcomed!

Date: Thursday, August 05, 2004
Time: 6:00:00 PM
Location: Elachee Nature Center

Notes: Meeting time and place has been moved to Thursday Aug 5 at 6 pm at Elachee Nature Center. We will discuss the future plans for Chicopee Woods and how we hope to use the compensation for the Ag Center to make Chicopee Woods a great(er) mountain bike destination. We need your input! We need to know what the biking community wants!

Contact: [email protected]
You do realize Scuba that those that are whining will not show up at the meeting (I won't be there either, but since I work 40 miles away, it's impossible for me to get to.). Sure, SORBA has known for MONTHS that the Ag Center was going away. Oh my gosh, that's MONTHS! Anyone who has ever dealth with governments or any kind of organization knows that it can take a year to get something done. Trails do not get built overnight. It's taken 5 years at Blanket's Creek for SORBA to get as far as they have, and the trails are wonderful! All of the trails have not suddenly disappeared overnight--Chicopee, Blanket's Creek, Gainesville College, Frady Branch, Bear Creek, Yellow River, etc. are all still there.

Also, Bravo to SORBA and the City of Gainesville for working together to find an equitable solution. Good job to the city for saving their Taxpayers nearly $1 million. In this day of government waste, it is nice to see a city government looking out for its citizens even if some mountain bikers are displaced for a few months. I'm eager to see what SORBA-Gainesville cooks up for us trail users even if it is a year away.

No, I do not go out and do trail work. I contribute to the cycling community in a few different ways, namely volunteering at racing and running southeasterncycling.com. Because of back problems, it's hard to "swing the ole Pulaski." Heck, I don't even do any yard work!

Oh yes, and don't forget that all of those wonderful SORBA folks also have full time jobs, families, and other responsibilities. How DARE they take time out to do anything other than work on trails!
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I hear that!

Thanks for the kind input Trish and thanks for keeping the website up. It's a great source for all biking in the SE.

Yea, even a few of my good friends and racing buddies never have and likely never will do trail work. One on one, I give them some grief and try to gode (sp) them into giving something somehow.

As for what the Gainesville SORBA chapter will do with the funds the city is offering to them, I don't know. Nor will I attend the meeting either. For me, it'll be because I won't be there to help see the project through, to help build the trails. Yea, I checked by choice on the SORBA forum topic for the trails I'd like to see, but when it comes to actually making the decisions, I do believe in those who do the work should get to decide what the trail will look like, when it comes to this volunteer work! With in means of course, meaning an intelligently built trail. For that, I know from experience the Gainesville folks can and will build some additional great trails for the mtn bike community to use.

I'm an hour away from Chicopee, but just 5 minutes from Blankets Creek. It gets me in the gut ever time I pass Charlie working on Blankets while I'm riding! I tell myself I did alot during the 3 years I was active locally. So, don't fret it too too much. When I get my Saturdays back (don't know when though) I do look forward to giving a day or two a month to Woodstock, Gainesville, Ellijay, RAMBO, Atlanta or even Macon, as I did years ago. It felt so good to help others less fortunate... very few volunteers locally!

Thanks again for doing what you do... and for the positive words!

See ya at the races... :) I'll be the volunteer on the sideline these days.

sc
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"Thanks for the kind input Trish and thanks for keeping the website up. It's a great source for all biking in the SE."

I've actually had people tell me that racers should do more....and that I do *nothing*. Umm...ok. Just head over to www.southeasterncycling.com. (Yes, Shameless plug). Being involved with road, mountain, and cyclocross racing, I tend to do a little volunteer work for each. For those with other obligations other than riding, it's often hard to balance the work, riding, family, racing, wife/husband/SO, keeping up the house, etc. Trailwork may all by the wayside, but maybe they can find time to volunteer once a year.

I agree with you Scuba, I'm sure that whatever the Gainesville SORBA chapter comes up with that it will be a lot of fun.

"I tell myself I did alot during the 3 years I was active locally. So, don't fret it too too much."

And you did a lot! Scuba's name was all over everything SORBA this and Blanket's Creek back. Sometimes in life, you have to take a step back and get involved in other things again. This winter for me it will be getting back into showing horses after a 5 year absence! I can't wait. I've been riding horses on a regular basis this year. I should still be able to race and show horses, but it will be a difficult balance.

See ya at the races...I'll be the chick in Super Sport just trying to breath and not pass out from the heat! :)
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Whoa!....

ScubaCruz said:
T66,

...to carry around the balls you must have to come on here and tell the volunteers to "GET ON WITH IT." I don't know if you do or don't ever GET OUT THERE yourself and help build the trails, but from your statement, I suspect you don't. If you did, you'ld know who to ask for status and when's a good time to help! [email protected] fyi.

Quit your *****ing and help a little. Heck, help alot. Just quit your *****ing, either way.

As for what the city is doing with the funds they've 'promised' to use to build additional trails at Chicopee, you'll have to ask the Gainesville folks about that also.

SC
Major over-reaction! t66 is just saying why wait until this Thursday to start the decision process on what kind of trail to build, how and where to build it when they knew since early spring, or even before, that Ag was history. Since they have "funds" do they need to rely solely on volunteers?

Personally I'd like to see an advanced trail be built, similar to AG but more technical. There are enough beginner/intermediate trails in that area.
useless posts...

from Scuba and Saddlebreed who apparently have nothing at stake to be even commenting in this thread. One lives and hour away and the other is a Roadie/ Equestrian.

Neither of you are even active with SORBA?....SHEESH...STHU!
I debate that! I was active in the past as was Scuba. Scuba...if I'm not mistaken, were you not on the Board of Directors for a few years? I was also on the BOD for the GAP race series for several years. As I stated above, sometimes other things in life have to take a back seat to different priorities.

Before you start saying nasty things, check your facts.
For the record...

T66 - I'm a current SORBA member. Are you? I'm also a past chapter president and a former board of directors member for 2 years. As for being a good SORBA member, in past years I placed 3rd in Paydirt Points in 2002 w/ ~50hours and 6th in 2003 w/ 32hrs. Those are just the hours counted toward the racing series program. Hundreds of hours given to other work parties, membership drives, festivals and more all to help SORBA.

Yea, a little overboard with SORBA in years past, thus taking it easy for a few years.

That said, I really really respect those who are still invovled. Thus the reason for jumping your post! Yea, it's a forum, thus you can complain and I can complain about your complaining and so on and so on.

Hopefully you'll make the meeting or at least one of your friends will to pass along your ideas and desires. And hopefully they'll be able to give a preposed time line for the future of trails in the Gainesville area. And if it doesn't move fast enough for you, step up, offer to help versus dropping public jabs at them.

SC
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