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Europe is still anti-29er.. Like everything else (fashion, music,movies, and other cool things) they're usually 10 years behind the US. But they're really missing the boat on the 29er fad. Come on Europe, catch up, you've got a few manufacturers I'd love to see building 29ers, but due to lack of demand over there it's not going to happen for a while.

In case you're listening, I'd like to see some more carbon HT 29er's....
 

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29" EU, sure, way behind US.
But FASHION...you may want to reconsider that mention :) Perhaps the US walked in all-jeans or stretch suits long before us. Then, yes.
MUSIC: all classics were composed in EU, Britpop, Rolling Stones, Iron Maiden. We're catching on that Country thing more slowly, yes. Hiphop, maybe. And the new R&B we never fully embraced.

I see little progress here in Holland, although we had a 29"er catch a national -23 title back in 2004 already. Alu frame, Pace 26" rigid fork, Nano tires. Since, it's been "uncool".

Cycling is a stupid market all over the world. In the world of the blind, Cyclops is king. I'll hand that to the US, they have one eye wide open, and getting the most out of it. Mostly thanks to Fisher of course, for putting everything on the line getting these bikes out there, and not letting down. G2 and carbon are the last missing links. The rest of the US bike market is just copying Fisher as well as they can without it being to obvious. Coming back from previous statement (Rocky Mountain, Specialized).
Like a small group of hooligans can really mess up the mood at a spot game (US is way behind with hooligans), a few daring innovators made the difference for 29" in the US. MTBR has a huge share here, I'm sure. MTBR readers are innovators.
 

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Cloxxki said:
In the world of he blind, Cyclops is king.
In the world of the blind, vision is a decease that needs to be cured, so that it does not interfere with the truly useful senses....
 

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In Norway 29ers is alle the rage. At least for the people at terrengsykkel.no (mtbr eq).
It might be because were so tall and all.

But were not members of the EU so maybe were not in Europe, and also Norway is the capitol of Sweden Im told.

Right..
 

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Europe is still anti-29er.. Like everything else (fashion, music,movies, and other cool things) they're usually 10 years behind the US. But they're really missing the boat on the 29er fad. Come on Europe, catch up, you've got a few manufacturers I'd love to see building 29ers, but due to lack of demand over there it's not going to happen for a while.

In case you're listening, I'd like to see some more carbon HT 29er's....
Get over it. :D People ride bikes and enjoy it. It doesn't matter what they ride. I happen to ride a 29er - but it wouldn't be the end of the world if i didn't. In uk On-one and Singular both make nice 29ers anyway. Just because US is 'taken' to the 29er does not mean everyone else should - perhaps European manufacturers are amking bikes that work well in Europe?!
 

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No idea about Europe at large

But in Italy it is starting to gain a bit of popularity. There are a few shops that sell Niners and a few that sell the Felts. So access is not so much the issue it was two or three years ago. I also spoke with the Italian Cannondale rep and he said that they didn't want to import 29ers because they had just not seen the interest.

One of the biggest problems for the folks across the pond is not so much not wanting to ride 29ers but access to tires, forks and rims.

There is the online retailer in Holland, http://www.singlespeed.nl/ , and racewear in Italy, but other than that I don't think there are any readily available parts in Europe. Maybe in Great Britain, but not on the main land. Plus don't forget, every part they buy is at least 20% more here than there.

Crisp Titanium and Zullo frames are the only two custom builders I know of who actually build 29ers on a regular basis for people, I know Germanns in Heidelberg has, but not a normal request.

Then, as I have observed, the whole deal that people above 6 foot don't ride much over here. At 6'2" tall I normally tower over 99% of the starters at most of my races. 26 inch wheels may be more the norm as the riders are, for the most part, a bit shorter.

Jelle, Cloxxki and some of the other Hollanders excluded of course.

Lastly is the aversion to change. Most of the guys I ride with have put lots of Euros into their current bikes. Mostly 5x5 or so all mountain bikes. They don't want to ride a hard tail with big wheels. The Italians and Germans have fully embraced suspension and really don't want to go back. Maybe with Niner getting more of their bikes over here for the Europeans to demo the demand may pick up. Not many people I know can afford and Lenzsport frame.

Just how I see it, having lived and ridden in Italy for two years and Germany the three prior to that. Ed

Totally forgot about On one and Singular in England, sorry, but they are few and far between here. Both make nice bikes that are affordable but neither make a fully to the best of my knowledge.
 

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rearviewmirror said:
Europe is still anti-29er.. Like everything else (fashion, music,movies, and other cool things) they're usually 10 years behind the US.
Fashion? Paris, Milan and NY are the leaders. Music? Rap perhaps, but certainly not in any other category except perhaps Americana. Movies? Laughable, unless you consider Spiderman 3 high art. :D

But as far as 29ers go, perhaps you are right.
 

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In France it's growing slowly.
Parts are available. Alternative-bicycles.fr does a really great job with Surly and Salsa.
French parts like mavic c29ssmax, Michelin AT (made in asia), Hutchinson Python & Toro, are available in shop, but mostly on order.
Cannondale 29 and specialized 29 are since this year available on order without problem. They are on the catalogs.
Gary fisher is available since 2 years, but Trek is much bigger here.

29" are strong among the singlespeeders. They are now catching for the high end XC racers, especially the road guys that are not so technical on a MTB, and that love the secure feeling.

Next step would be to have one of our French brand work on a model, Lapierre, Commencal, Sunn, we will see who will be the first.
 

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Germany will come - for sure

In the german speaking countries Germany, Austria and Switzerland there is a small community which is growing bigger and bigger and bigger. There are two forums like this and that

The point is, that the two leading Mountainbike Magazines still think the 29er are no more than just trekking bikes. We need people racing and winning on 29er bikes but unfortunately even if the UCI allows 29ers on the races the german BDR does not allow them. So for the example, on a World Cup Race in Germany racers woud be allowed to race on 29ers but not on a german cahmpionship that would be organized from BDR. At least you can run a 29er on 24h races or marathons that are not officially organized by the BDR.

I am sure, the 29er movement will come to us with a little delay. The first shops here a getting started with selling 29er bikes like Alpha Bikes or a tire shop called radlreifen. The guy who runs radlreifen is a nice one and selling throughout europe.

I bet, after the season 2009 the peeple over here will rethink the whole thing and even sell NINER bikes here which I think are the best:thumbsup:

We will do our very best:D
 

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EUROPEANS ARE BLOODY IGNORANT AND STUPID.
It's obvious, they have a smaller brain, so they like smaller things!
Just compare American an European cars and you will see:

USA:

GREAT!

EUROPE:

RIDICULOUS!
 

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29er awareness it is slowly growing in Germany, I notice that in various classifieds people are now explicitly listing stating that tires/wheels etc are 26" vs 28"/29"/700c. My perception was that MTB wheels/tires/frames were by default 26" around 2003, and you did not have to mention wheel size. Now it is more common to see people differentiate the wheel size, I guess due to more exposure to options. Hell, even 650B is slowly starting to creep into postings on various forums.

But the customs tax is way crazy...
 

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Yeah, taxes are kinda high, we really need european manufacturers to start pushing big wheel mountain frames, not just hybrids.

Here in Romania most people just buy whatever second hand bike they can afford, not many know about these things. We have a lot of catching up to do, sadly... however the small community of connaisseurs is very innovation oriented, much like mtbr, and 29ers get very curious looks at races, everyone wants to try them out.

And in my group of riders, a decent proportion has 29ers... Kona, Felt, Specialized FSR... I was the first to see the light, started out with a hybrid fitted with 2.1 tyres and rigid carbon fork, now building a ht dillinger, converting the hybrid to a ss monstercross, and hopefully in the next 2 years i'll build up a 5+ stable, all with big wheels, so i can help more friends ride the new wave and see what it's all about.
 

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I hear big cars are not selling too well right now....

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I am in Northern Europe and have ridden with a few guys who were on 29ers. The bikes were not holding them back. The gear is available, but you probably need to buy stuff online if you want something very specific.
 

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68point5 said:
EUROPEANS ARE BLOODY IGNORANT AND STUPID.
It's obvious, they have a smaller brain, so they like smaller things!
Just compare American an European cars and you will see:

USA:

GREAT!

EUROPE:

RIDICULOUS!
Yes the american cars are bigger, but the germans have no money problems:p

and teh other great thing are, gernman guys can drive her cars with no limit on the streets and you can drive only very slow ha ha ha,
and also we need no own bank that we can fill the cars with gasoline
 
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