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I went from sun rhyno lites and shimano hubs with stan's rim strips and regular tires which worked really well. Now I have atomlab trailpimp wheelset no stans. I'd like to get something lighter but still tough for the jumping. I was thinking hadley hubs and mavic 823's. A couple of questions though. Would I have to run the stan's rim strips if I used regular tires? Or would you just go with a non ust rim and run stan's. Also how do the spokes attatch to the rim. On mavics website it appears there's something like a t-nut where the nipple goes into the rim but in the diagram it doesn't look like it goes behind the rim. Last question I was thinking of biulding my own wheels but on Universalcycles wheel biulder the price for everything came out to about $525, hubs and rims only ordered seperately were like $575. You guys think this is a good way to go?
 

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I would strongly urge you to not try and build your own wheels. Have your local bike shop or order the whells pre-built. I would tell you to buy the mavic rims. I switched to mavic a few years back and I will never ride anything but. With the mavic you wont need a rim strip. Just add stans and ride.
 

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If you want to run tubeless, especially for heavy duty use, UST wheels and UST tires is the way to go. If the wheels you want aren't UST but you still want to run tubeless, then Stan's may work out depending on the wheel (working good for me on Sun SingleTrack rims). Even if you go the Stan's route, you should still really consider UST tires. The side wall of standard tires just isn't made to handle the load or running tubeless.
 

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BrandonJ said:
If you want to run tubeless, especially for heavy duty use, UST wheels and UST tires is the way to go. If the wheels you want aren't UST but you still want to run tubeless, then Stan's may work out depending on the wheel (working good for me on Sun SingleTrack rims). Even if you go the Stan's route, you should still really consider UST tires. The side wall of standard tires just isn't made to handle the load or running tubeless.
BrandonJ, I have just ordered my seecond pair of sun singletracks. They arrive today. I was considering going tubeless. The Singletrack isnt UST (as you know), just what exactly do I need to do the trick. I have the UST tubeless tires already. I have read many thread on tubeless tires but cannot picture sqeezing some green gooo or slime into a mounted tire, pump it up and ride. Any insight or pics will be appreciated. Thanks.
 

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Have read on a few places, incluiding R.C from MTB Action, that the sidewall on standard tires is not weaker, but that the only difference is that UST tires obiously have a different beads (larger and more squared) and the whole tire is sealed inside or coated to seal pores. I was hesitant to try standard tires on my X819 rims until I read this. Have about two month's now with a set of Conti vertical pros 2.3, slime and so far no problems. Have ridden some rock gardens which really tested side loads as I slided a few times resulting in a light crash and once I tough it was because sidewall snapped but luckily it was not, Rocks were a little wet, so maybe this prevented the tire to grip better on the rock and amplify the side load, but I'll post if it ever happens. So far so good. I agree that UST tire look more robust, but mostly because of the bead hook, if only tire manufactures offered more choices.
To Dirtman - Slime is not like stan's is more goo like, but basically after you've installed the tire, get a tire lever, pry the tire without dismounting, a pour the sealant in, snap it back and rotate the tire in different ways until eventually it'll seal. For stan's get a container like the one used for hair tint( or the one that comes with the Slime), that you have to squeze and have a little spout to get in tight places.
 

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Dirtman said:
BrandonJ, I have just ordered my seecond pair of sun singletracks. They arrive today. I was considering going tubeless. The Singletrack isnt UST (as you know), just what exactly do I need to do the trick. I have the UST tubeless tires already. I have read many thread on tubeless tires but cannot picture sqeezing some green gooo or slime into a mounted tire, pump it up and ride. Any insight or pics will be appreciated. Thanks.
Go to http://www.notubes.com. They have a video of the process and everything. The site will focus on using standard tires tubeless but UST tires is the way to go. You will want to order the Stan's No Tubes kit and PricePoint has the kit for the Single Tracks the cheapest right now. http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/13081-343_STAFD4-0-Search--/Stan's-FR-&-DH-Tubeless-Kit.htm

The freeride rim strips from Stan's have schrader valves so you will end up needing to drill out the valve stem holes on the rims which isn't a big deal. The whole process is pretty straight forward. The only issue you are likely to have is getting the tire beads to pop in to place and air up. If you use wide tires like Continental Verticals, you will probably be able to air up by hand. My current tire is Panaracer Fire XC UST and it takes an air compressor with a tank to air them up. I'm making the jump to Conti Verticals soon.
 
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