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I am going to attempt to build my own wheels with Mav x517 ceramic, sun of bubba, and a cheap white industries boxxer rear(the 3 bolt disc kind ). I was looking at weird lacing patterns and i dont really know the difference. How do you guys like your wheels laced, and how to those boutique builders lace their wheels ?
 

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3 cross....

IMO the 3 cross pattern is needed for disks, but can and should be used with non-disk setups also. While there are more exotic lacing patters that may save you a gram here and there you cannot beat the 3 cross for overall strength, performance, and durability.

Do a search for Sheldon Brown's site.

Mike
 

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b12yan88 said:
I am going to attempt to build my own wheels with Mav x517 ceramic, sun of bubba, and a cheap white industries boxxer rear(the 3 bolt disc kind ). I was looking at weird lacing patterns and i dont really know the difference. How do you guys like your wheels laced, and how to those boutique builders lace their wheels ?
3 cross (or 4x for 36 spokes) is the most proven and reliable. It is not required for disc wheels though the more crosses the better.

The 517 rim is not a good choice for disc wheels. The spoke bed is prone to cracking.
 

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b12yan88 said:
I am going to attempt to build my own wheels with Mav x517 ceramic, sun of bubba, and a cheap white industries boxxer rear(the 3 bolt disc kind ). I was looking at weird lacing patterns and i dont really know the difference. How do you guys like your wheels laced, and how to those boutique builders lace their wheels ?
Anyone that claims their magical weirdo lacing is superior to standard 3 cross if full of shhhheeeet. Not saying you can't do it or it won't hold up but it definitely won't be any better, stronger or faster.
 

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shiggy©®™ said:
3 cross (or 4x for 36 spokes) is the most proven and reliable. It is not required for disc wheels though the more crosses the better.
Actually, if you try to build a disc wheel with radial lacing (zero cross) then you are in for a whole mess of trouble.

Build it 3X and live happily ever after.

TN
 

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TobyNobody said:
Actually, if you try to build a disc wheel with radial lacing (zero cross) then you are in for a whole mess of trouble.

Build it 3X and live happily ever after.

TN
I never said you could use radial lacing with a disc wheel. You need (semi) tangental lacing for the wheel to work with hub brakes. Whether it is 2x, 3x, 4x or some combo depends on the number of spokes in the wheel and hub design among other factors. 24 spokes disc wheels tend to use 2x but the tangental spoke angle is about the same as a 32 spoke 3x wheel. A 36 spoke wheel can be laced 4x. A higher hub flange increases the tangental angle. Cane Creek and Spinergy build front disc wheels with radial right side spokes. I have built front wheels with 2x left / 3x right (32 spoke) and 3x left / 4x right (36 spoke) (reduces spoke tension difference slightly) and they work great. I have even built rear disc wheels 3x left / 1x right that are holding up fine (except for a hub shell failure that may or may not be related to the lacing).

Other myths for disc wheels are you must use straight gauge spokes and you must use brass nipples. For most riders butted spokes are better and alloy nipples work just fine. My best wheels use Sapim CX-Ray bladed spokes and alloy nipples. Several others (budget wheels) use Sapim Race DB (14-15) spokes and alloy nips.

For a 32 spoke wheel 3x is the safest, most proven lacing but it is not the only choice.
 

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Sorry i should have clarifiied earlier. I am only buy this hub cause no one wants a 3 bolt disc pattern, cause there aren't any 3 bolt disc brakes. It was only 20 dollars marked down from some really expensive pricing. I am just using rim brakes and aren't even going to touch the disc mount. I might actually think about fiiling them right off. I was looking at this site
http://spokeanwheel.stormpages.com/lacingsr.htm
and the guy makes sense. I was thinking about for the rear wheel a hybrid crows foot on driive side, and a 2 cross on non drive side as he suggested. My front wheels wiill be traditional 3 cross.
 

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b12yan88 said:
Sorry i should have clarifiied earlier. I am only buy this hub cause no one wants a 3 bolt disc pattern, cause there aren't any 3 bolt disc brakes. It was only 20 dollars marked down from some really expensive pricing. I am just using rim brakes and aren't even going to touch the disc mount. I might actually think about fiiling them right off. I was looking at this site
http://spokeanwheel.stormpages.com/lacingsr.htm
and the guy makes sense. I was thinking about for the rear wheel a hybrid crows foot on driive side, and a 2 cross on non drive side as he suggested. My front wheels wiill be traditional 3 cross.
I would (and do) build the rear wheel 3x drive / 2x non drive. These have been very reliable rim brake wheels. Usually do the front 1x or 2x just to be different.
 
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