Mountain Bike Reviews Forum banner
1 - 20 of 41 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,144 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
On page 2 of MTBR's coverage of the NAHBS show, they talk to Tony Ellsworth himself. He claims that they make all of their frames in the USA and he makes a big deal out of it. However, it is my understanding that the "Glimpse" is at least partially made in Taiwan. I don't know if other models are made in a similar fashion.

So am I missing something or is Tony actually lying?

Here is a direct quote from the interview (note the word "everything"):
We make everything in the USA, and we do it in environmentally conscious ways.
 

·
Elitest thrill junkie
Joined
·
38,881 Posts
Their wheels are made in Taiwan and the carbon bikes are made overseas too. Tony is a pathalogical liar, has been for a long while.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
3,029 Posts
Check the date of the post

Thor29 said:
On page 2 of MTBR's coverage of the NAHBS show, they talk to Tony Ellsworth himself. He claims that they make all of their frames in the USA and he makes a big deal out of it. However, it is my understanding that the "Glimpse" is at least partially made in Taiwan. I don't know if other models are made in a similar fashion.

So am I missing something or is Tony actually lying?

Here is a direct quote from the interview (note the word "everything"):
We make everything in the USA, and we do it in environmentally conscious ways.
The post was from 2008. "Sunday January 20th, 2008 at 2:05 PM"

Back then the bikes could have all been USA made. I think the Glimpse is newer and don't know about the carbon offerings.

I might not be a huge fan of the brand, but feel only punish 'em when deserved. ;)

JmZ
 

·
I just wanna go fast!
Joined
·
1,958 Posts
If someone has the bike and like the way it rides, then so what? If they're super worried about buying a bike made in the USA other reasons(support american jobs, more trusting of the quality and customer service, etc) then there are plenty of other brands you know for sure are made in the US.

First and foremost to me is quality of the ride, followed closely by durability and customer service.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
348 Posts
Itchy The Clown said:
Yes. Tony is a pathological liar. His bullshoot has been well-documented for well over a decade.

Cue the fanbois to "defend" Tony's lies because they think they are special just because they bought into the hype.
I could give a flying hoot about Tony Ellsworth. What I do know is that his frames ride great. The build quality is top notch and while everybody moans about his suspension being outdated, it JUST PLAIN WORKS!!

I am never going to meet or have a conversation with the Owner. Nor do I care to. It isn't like he gave me a frame or asked me to support his product.

But you are right...Tony is a liar so his bikes all must suck.
 

·
DIY all the way
Joined
·
2,053 Posts
Hmm, Ellsworth and customer service in the same sentence ?

Like not supplying parts for bikes a few years old?

That attitude is only beaten by Intense, whom cares even less......


Magura :)
 

·
DIY all the way
Joined
·
2,053 Posts
Chapped (o) Hole said:
:thumbsup:
I totally agree with you :cool:

I ride a '99 Intense M1, which I honestly love.

That's the reason my urine boils when the ignorance of companies like Intense and Ellsworth, makes it a lot of trouble to keep the bike running.

The latests chapter in the story of keeping my Intense running, is to machine a new linkage plate, as those have been out of stock since forever.

Magura :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,144 Posts
Discussion Starter · #13 ·
JmZ said:
The post was from 2008. "Sunday January 20th, 2008 at 2:05 PM"

Back then the bikes could have all been USA made. I think the Glimpse is newer and don't know about the carbon offerings.

I might not be a huge fan of the brand, but feel only punish 'em when deserved. ;)
JmZ
That's weird. Why did MTBR include all those 2008 interviews in an article labeled as the 2011 Austin NAHBS? Even so, that makes him seem even more of a jerk if he said that in 2008 and then a year or two later starts selling Taiwanese frames.
 

·
Elitest thrill junkie
Joined
·
38,881 Posts
I believe even in 2008 he was making his "made in Taiwan by buddist monks" - "heavier than the competition with poor engagement" wheelsets, and even back then he was showing off glimpse prototypes, for some reason it took a few years for the glimpse to hit rhe market.
 

·
since 4/10/2009
Joined
·
34,396 Posts
canonshooter said:
I am never going to meet or have a conversation with the Owner. Nor do I care to. It isn't like he gave me a frame or asked me to support his product.
If you hung out on mtbr several years ago, you very well could have had a convo with Tony E. There's very good reason he doesn't hang around here anymore.

That whole mess convinced me to never buy a bike from him, and I'm pretty sure a few folks in this thread also remember all of that crap years ago.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
348 Posts
So the guys is an a$$... was gibts? I tend to judge the product and not the person.

I am sure there is a lot of folks hating the old head of GM for running the company into the ground, yet people still drive Chevys....I personally think that there are a lot yous guys on mtbr that like to jump on the band wagon of hate because it gives you something to bi tch about.
 

·
Tool
Joined
·
1,973 Posts
Success always puts a target on your back, and some will look for any target they might hit.

I don't have any opinion on TE himself or really his company because I simply haven't followed any of the saga(s). If more Americans would buy American, more stuff could still be made here, but good luck swaying the majority that is Walmart nation (a whole different topic).

I do love my 2010 Truth. The frame is a little on the heavy side, but it more than makes up for the extra weight with its stiffness; when ridden it feels considerably lighter than it is.

-Pete
 

·
Ride Instigator
Joined
·
3,220 Posts
bdamschen said:
If someone has the bike and like the way it rides, then so what? If they're super worried about buying a bike made in the USA other reasons(support american jobs, more trusting of the quality and customer service, etc) then there are plenty of other brands you know for sure are made in the US.

First and foremost to me is quality of the ride, followed closely by durability and customer service.
I for one had no problem with Ellsworths customer service between 2002 and 2005. I broke an Isis frame 3 times and they promptly replaced it under warranty all 3 times...What I did have a problem with is an XC bike breaking 3 times with ONLY normal XC riding!
 

·
Never trust a fart
Joined
·
4,543 Posts
I have a customer with an Epiphany that is around 6-7 years old. The rear upper swing arm was oxidized. The customer called Ellsworth and asked him if the swing arm could be powder coated.

Ellsworth sent him a completely new, complete billet aluminum swing arm. No charge.

If that isn't good CS, then I don't know what CS is. And I need to get out of the CS business.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
87 Posts
canonshooter said:
I personally think that there are a lot yous guys on mtbr that like to jump on the band wagon of hate because it gives you something to bi tch about.
What about the folks that had personal interactions with Tony that directly related to defective product and the piss poor way that Ellsworoth handled the situation?

How about instances where Tony lied to the MTBR audience about the defective product and what had transpired?

Is speaking from personal experience "jumping on the bandwagon"?

Yes, fanbois that have a good deal of their self-worth tied up in the brand of bike they buy will defend their purchase choice, no matter how illogical that is...

p.s. Is there any sane reason to use "I personally think" rather than "I think"?
 
1 - 20 of 41 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top