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So I'm searching for my next bike and I think I want to stick with an alloy bike. I rode my friends carbon YT Decoy and it felt realllllyyy stiff. My hands and wrists were worked after one 15 mile enduro style ride. This leads me to believe that I am used to and prefer the flex of an alloy bike. Granted the bars were also carbon and my personal bike has alloy bars. This may have lead to the sore hands and wrists as well. I also don't want to have to worry about laying the bike down and rock strikes so I think alloy is the way to go for a bike I am going to keep for at least 5-10 years.

With all that being said: What do you guys think is the best Alloy 29er Enduro bike option? Not interested in mullets. So far my short list is:

Specialized SJ Evo Alloy (with cascade link)
Rocky Mountain Altitude Alloy
Transition Sentinel (cascade) /Spire Alloy

Thanks in advance mates!

P.S. I live in San Diego and ride a mix of everything but prefer to ride the spicier trails if you know what I mean (jumps, drops, chunk, high speed, chutes, berms)
 

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Everybody's different so can't say what's right for you but personally I bought one of these and am happy with it.
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Everybody's different so can't say what's right for you but personally I bought one of these and am happy with it.
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Ooo i used to really want a The One back in the day. How much does this bike weigh all built up?
 

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Ooo i used to really want a The One back in the day. How much does this bike weigh all built up?
Well mine isn't light -- 37#.
But it's a size XL w/heavy wheels & tires, an all-steel 11-51t cassette, coil shock, 210mm dropper, 220mm rotors, etc.
Weight is more important to some than others and I'm firmly in the latter category -- I really only care how it rides.
Anyway the Lithium climbs like a scalded monkey and descends like a pent up prom date -- personally I love this thing.
The CBF suspension platform is sublime, both uphill and down.
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Ooo i used to really want a The One back in the day. How much does this bike weigh all built up?
There's the One.2 now, the Balance, and the Lithium. I'm really enjoying my Balance, as Canfield does so much right :)

I was debating between the One.2 and Balance, but 190mm of travel to pedal around seems a bit much for me.
 

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Banshee Titan, Privateer 161. Lots of good choices.
 
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So I'm searching for my next bike and I think I want to stick with an alloy bike. I rode my friends carbon YT Decoy and it felt realllllyyy stiff. My hands and wrists were worked after one 15 mile enduro style ride. This leads me to believe that I am used to and prefer the flex of an alloy bike. Granted the bars were also carbon and my personal bike has alloy bars. This may have lead to the sore hands and wrists as well. I also don't want to have to worry about laying the bike down and rock strikes so I think alloy is the way to go for a bike I am going to keep for at least 5-10 years.

With all that being said: What do you guys think is the best Alloy 29er Enduro bike option? Not interested in mullets. So far my short list is:

Specialized SJ Evo Alloy (with cascade link)
Rocky Mountain Altitude Alloy
Transition Sentinel (cascade) /Spire Alloy

Thanks in advance mates!

P.S. I live in San Diego and ride a mix of everything but prefer to ride the spicier trails if you know what I mean (jumps, drops, chunk, high speed, chutes, berms)
Have the alloy Sentinel V1 and love it. Cascade link going on this week. Will report back.
 

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So I'm searching for my next bike and I think I want to stick with an alloy bike. I rode my friends carbon YT Decoy and it felt realllllyyy stiff. My hands and wrists were worked after one 15 mile enduro style ride.
Pretty sure you're not feeling the frame material through the rubber tires, aluminum rims, spokes, hub, fork, stem, handlebars and grips.

Let some air out of the fork and turn the knob towards the turtle.
 

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Pretty sure you're not feeling the frame material through the rubber tires, aluminum rims, spokes, hub, fork, stem, handlebars and grips.

Let some air out of the fork and turn the knob towards the turtle.
wasn't my bike. was just trying out an ebike for fun that day. was really suprised at how fatigued my hands and wrists felt after that ride compared to riding my personal bike.
 

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wasn't my bike. was just trying out an ebike for fun that day. was really suprised at how fatigued my hands and wrists felt after that ride compared to riding my personal bike.
So what you're saying is you jumped on a bike with an unknown suspension setup and blame the frame material for it jacking up your hands.
 

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yeah, owner and I are sameish weight, sag looked fine when i sat on it
You didn't check the rebound or compression settings which could have been set to "anything". Also the tires could have had 50psi in them. I don't think you can set sag by "look" either, get some digital calipers out and measure.

I'm not trying to win a debate. I'm trying to help you. You are basing your whole purchasing decision off a flawed observation. I don't care what you buy, I think aluminum is fine and just bought an aluminum bike. Anecdotes are anecodes but literally nobody thinks aluminium bikes are less harsh than carbon. It's the opposite.
 

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You didn't check the rebound or compression settings which could have been set to "anything". Also the tires could have had 50psi in them. I don't think you can set sag by "look" either, get some digital calipers out and measure.

I'm not trying to win a debate. I'm trying to help you. You are basing your whole purchasing decision off a flawed observation. I don't care what you buy, I think aluminum is fine and just bought an aluminum bike. Anecdotes are anecodes but literally nobody thinks aluminium bikes are less harsh than carbon. It's the opposite.
the tires were definitely pumped up to like 30+psi.


^this dude says that the alloy is easier on his wrists than the carbon version. he says the alloy is more comfortable and easy on the wrist with less vibration transferred through the frame and bars. He rides more bikes than either of us do so I low key trust his review.
 

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Aluminum wheels are known to be more compliant than carbon wheels. People complain about flex in aluminum frames and carbon frames have always been known to be stiffer than their aluminum counterpart. So the question is a stiffer frame less harsh on trails?
 

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Carbon frames and parts used to be very stiff but compliance has been the name of the game for a little while now.

I despise carbon as a consumer grade material and encourage you to buy an alloy frame but agree on this: your impressions might have come from several areas (overly stiff frame design, stiff handlebar, stiff wheelset, wrong suspension settings for you, wrong tire pressure, etc), and is not directly related to material per se.

I suggest Knolly, Canfield, Raaw, etc, lot’s of options!
 

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wasn't my bike. was just trying out an ebike for fun that day. was really suprised at how fatigued my hands and wrists felt after that ride compared to riding my personal bike.
possibly just bars...
 
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