[green mt. boy]

Disclaimer - I want a tire this big for my snow rims.

I recognize that the potential market maybe tiny for a snow specific tire BUT I see an opportunity. Alot of discussion on this board about putting FAT tires on the front of 29ers. Jeff Jones and Vicious are doing some very cool things with Endos/LM upfront. Some are buying Pugs equipment and going that direction. Small market or costly alternatives are potential obstacles.

What if Surly/Quality produced a 29x3.0 Endo? I see a cheaper alternative to the big tire that would appeal to a whole lots of riders. Surly offers the KM which would take a 3.0 up front. Quality stocks Salsa and Kris Holm rims which offer sturdy alternatives to snowcats.

I recognize that the tire would not fit most chainstays BUT I think riders/builders have the solutions to fix that point.

What would it take to get the tire? I don't know what a mold costs. I don't know how many Quality would have to sell to break even but I venture they would sell a number equal to the Endo. Lastly, would folks pre-order tires as an encouragement to make such a tire? I will take two, thank you.

 

[shiggy]

Disclaimer - I want a tire this big for my snow rims.

I recognize that the potential market maybe tiny for a snow specific tire BUT I see an opportunity. Alot of discussion on this board about putting FAT tires on the front of 29ers. Jeff Jones and Vicious are doing some very cool things with Endos/LM upfront. Some are buying Pugs equipment and going that direction. Small market or costly alternatives are potential obstacles.

What if Surly/Quality produced a 29x3.0 Endo? I see a cheaper alternative to the big tire that would appeal to a whole lots of riders. Surly offers the KM which would take a 3.0 up front. Quality stocks Salsa and Kris Holm rims which offer sturdy alternatives to snowcats.

I recognize that the tire would not fit most chainstays BUT I think riders/builders have the solutions to fix that point.

What would it take to get the tire? I don't know what a mold costs. I don't know how many Quality would have to sell to break even but I venture they would sell a number equal to the Endo. Lastly, would folks pre-order tires as an encouragement to make such a tire? I will take two, thank you.

Currently the bicycle tire industry lacks the manufacturing equipment for a tire that large. That is also the reason we have not seen tires larger than what is currently on the market. Nobody can make them (yet).

 

[mikesee]

What would it take to get the tire? I don't know what a mold costs. I don't know how many Quality would have to sell to break even but I venture they would sell a number equal to the Endo. Lastly, would folks pre-order tires as an encouragement to make such a tire? I will take two, thank you.

It would take someone laying out the cash and saying (to the right set of ears) "Make this". Months later, it would exist.

That's all. Figure ~$15k for the first batch of ~1000 tires, less for each batch thereafter.

You won't see Q or Surly or really anyone else making something like this any time soon. They need to see a lot more demand (ROI) before they'll take a risk like that. Can't say I blame 'em one bit. Money ain't cheap.

MC

 

[Cloxxki]

I suggested this 29x3.0 tire to Surly about the time they came up with the 26x3.7.
I would fit their Pugsley bike, too.

But, me having suggested it, is about as good as a guarantee it will not happen, at least at Surly.

Crazy huh, that no-one is spending the cash to make the mold required for larger tires. Kenda was said to be doing it, but little seems to have come from them in the plus size.