What to do top line hard tale.

on one 456 summer session TI, transition transAM, Ragley blue pig (there might even be a TI version of that one)

motoxkfx123 said:

Ok i want to get a top o the line hardtail am frame and i dont even know where to start. i have a Titus ML fs now and i am going to keep it but i want a hardtail that is comparable but i want something different so what do you recommend i would like to go with a ti frame but it dose not have to be ti.

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An AM hardtail? There are lots,some mentioned already.

Do u want iscg tabs? If so fewer options off the shelf

there are some titanium am hardtails. I recommend on one ti 456 (had one) and there is a ti ragley. I got a new ti am hardtail few days ago but it's custom.

Do u want a 26er I assume? There r some off the shelf am 29er hardtails.

If your looking for a HT with DH geo check out the NS Surge, everything else is XC. :cornut:

http://www.ns-bikes.com/

FoShizzle said:

An AM hardtail? There are lots,some mentioned already.

Do u want iscg tabs? If so fewer options off the shelf

there are some titanium am hardtails. I recommend on one ti 456 (had one) and there is a ti ragley. I got a new ti am hardtail few days ago but it's custom.

Do u want a 26er I assume? There r some off the shelf am 29er hardtails.

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Thanks fo much better answer

jinxley said:

Thanks fo much better answer

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you're welcome...all depends what you want. morons who say one or other is best are just that, morons. my new bike was custom as I wanted not only Ti, but very specific geo, wheel size, etc..for my riding style, preferences, and local terrain such that too slack would be bad overall, etc...29er haters of course will hate it, whatevuh...and some want more slack, but i do lots of climbing so its a fine line if i take one parameter too far. in any event, after 2 rides its exactly what i wanted though I loved my On One 456 Ti as well.

Sorry to butt in on a thread, but just one quick question. What 29er HT Am bikes are there. They sound intriguing to me.

Just to add something to the thread as well. I love my Chameleon. Alot say it's too stiff and uncomfortable, but I'm young and supple, so the amount of control and feedback I get because of the stiffness is worth while IMO.

Dheorl said:

Sorry to butt in on a thread, but just one quick question. What 29er HT Am bikes are there. They sound intriguing to me.

Just to add something to the thread as well. I love my Chameleon. Alot say it's too stiff and uncomfortable, but I'm young and supple, so the amount of control and feedback I get because of the stiffness is worth while IMO.

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Banshee Paradox
Sinister Simon Bar
Canfield Brothers Nimble 9 (not available yet)

All have slacker HT angles and shorter (if not adjustable) chainstay length, but are not as burly and overbuilt as a lot of the 26er HT AM bikes. These are however the most flickable, maneuverable, responsive 29er HT's built. I own the Paradox and it climbs and descends VERY well. The only place where I even notice that it's a 29er is on tight switchbacks. If you can really throw a bike around in the air, you might notice it there too.

Dheorl said:

Sorry to butt in on a thread, but just one quick question. What 29er HT Am bikes are there. They sound intriguing to me.

Just to add something to the thread as well. I love my Chameleon. Alot say it's too stiff and uncomfortable, but I'm young and supple, so the amount of control and feedback I get because of the stiffness is worth while IMO.

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its subjective what AM means. Not sure I would lump in the canfield just because it has short stays. a 5.5 lb steel frame is as light as any of the off the shelf steel frame for XC riding, canfield advertises it as possible for xc racing...not saying marketing means a damn thing but i dont see what its an "AM" frame along with a paradox

The paradox for sure as its tough, has ISCG tabs, etc. The sinister probably as its close to the paradox.

I built one up and got it last week but its custom so doesnt really count i guess

For the price of a decent ti frame you could buy every other steel frame mentioned in this thread. Then you could come to your own conlusions about 26vs 29 etc

^What?
Lol,
Anyways that chumba looks lush. Are they on the market yet?

Yup, I just built one. You can get a frame & build it up or buy a complete bike.

http://www.google.com/products?q=chumba+hx1&oe=utf-8&scoring=r