I bought an Ellsworth Moment (large) and it felt really cramped and had a high center of gravity. I own a XL Santa Cruz heckler and it feels right on. SC Heckler has a 24.9 TT. I run a 110mm stem- 5 deg. , staight Thomson seatpost.
I'm 6'2 with a true 34.4 inseam. 31 " middle BB to seat height.
Purely a guess, since I am at the other end of the size spectrum, I would say XL. Set it up with a 90-100mm stem. To get your 31" seat height you will have approx 7-8" of exposed seat tube. Your 34.4" inseam will have no problems clearing the 33" standover either.
I agree. If your Moment made you feel cramped, then the Large 6-Pack will probably do the same. For the long strethched out trail bike feel, I'd recommend the XL.
Mine's a large that I have set up more for trail/light freeriding. It fits me well(besides wanting a little shorter stem), but I'm 1 1/2" shorter than you if that helps any.
neither will work. you will be working. the bike needs you to do the work.
why do you keep asking for "expert" opinions on this issue. if you don't know what size you need, you need to learn more about yourself and your riding. and obviously you do not need the 6-Pack's advanced design, if you're that ignorant.
but keep asking, someone is likely to play the role of "expert" and tell you without a doubt which size is "correct."
dude, you could ride a Medium if you wanted. what do you want?
Do you ever have anything worthwhile to contribute?
gonzostrike said:
neither will work. you will be working. the bike needs you to do the work.
why do you keep asking for "expert" opinions on this issue. if you don't know what size you need, you need to learn more about yourself and your riding. and obviously you do not need the 6-Pack's advanced design, if you're that ignorant.
but keep asking, someone is likely to play the role of "expert" and tell you without a doubt which size is "correct."
dude, you could ride a Medium if you wanted. what do you want?
I bought an Ellsworth Moment (large) and it felt really cramped and had a high center of gravity. I own a XL Santa Cruz heckler and it feels right on. SC Heckler has a 24.9 TT. I run a 110mm stem- 5 deg. , staight Thomson seatpost.
I'm 6'2 with a true 34.4 inseam. 31 " middle BB to seat height.
Large Pack = 24.3" tt, XL = 25.2"
Turner recommends peeps up to 6'1" to go with a L and 6'2" and up XL.
Your inseam is 1.5" longer than mine, so seatpost insertion or standover on a L would be no issue, and I run my saddle 30" mid-BB to seat, so the proportions seem quite similar. It boils down to top tube length, and since the large moment has the same tt length as the large Pack, and the moment was too short/cramped, you will definitely want an XL Pack.
The bb height on the moment is curious and inscrutible since E measures them sagged and who knows with which fork (usually something short). You will likely be able to put a bigger fork (540mm A-C like a 36 or Z1 FR1) on the Pack and end up with the same bb arrangement as a moment sporting a short fork, or put a 520mm A-C fork on the Pack and possibly end up lower than the Moment. Someone would have to search the E forum for bb heights or measure.
Large Pack = 24.3" tt, XL = 25.2"
Turner recommends peeps up to 6'1" to go with a L and 6'2" and up XL.
Your inseam is 1.5" longer than mine, so seatpost insertion or standover on a L would be no issue, and I run my saddle 30" mid-BB to seat, so the proportions seem quite similar. It boils down to top tube length, and since the large moment has the same tt length as the large Pack, and the moment was too short/cramped, you will definitely want an XL Pack.
The bb height on the moment is curious and inscrutible since E measures them sagged and who knows with which fork (usually something short). You will likely be able to put a bigger fork (540mm A-C like a 36 or Z1 FR1) on the Pack and end up with the same bb arrangement as a moment sporting a short fork, or put a 520mm A-C fork on the Pack and possibly end up lower than the Moment. Someone would have to search the E forum for bb heights or measure.
Thanks everyone for your input. Even Meatheads !!! I spoke with Casey. He was very helpful . I wish that I went with Turner . Before the Ellsworth. Ells does make a sweet looking bike. I guess for some that doesn't matter.I learned. The 6 Pack is Sweet.
I got it from Go-Ride.com . Nice people to deal with.Great deal.
Turner advertises the 6 Pack as FR vs Ellsworth advertises the Moment as Trailbike. Both 6'' travel bikes. Not much of a weight difference.Beware no dropoffs with Moment.
Plain and simple. Alot of people on Ellsworths have a mile of seat post hanging out. The seat tube problems they have had . The more seatpost out = more leverage. The core market of bikes is probally medium and large. I guess for Ellsworth, it is plain economics.
This is not a knock on Ellsworth. They make a great looking bike that works. Just not for me.
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