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I have an idea on the effect of longer travel fork but for rear, what is the effect?
Is the longer travel on rear suspension better?
Is the longer travel on rear suspension better?
What is the effect of longer "rear" travel suspension?
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Longer rear travel allows the bike to absorb larger hits and allow the tire to roll over larger obstacles without upsetting the level of the bike. It's quite nice actually.
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Trade off is that the longer suspension can make the bike a bit less efficient to pedal and often a bit heavier. Fine tradeoff for a more comfortable and composed ride if you ride rougher terrain.
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hmmm let's see... I think this is a good sample of what I'm trying to get answers.
on evil website.. here are the bike that they are selling
Rider Owned, Designed and Operated in Bellingham, WA
Evil Bikes - Following Frameset
FOLLOWING
29" WHEELS / 120MM REAR TRAVEL
Evil Bikes - Offering Frameset
OFFERING
29" WHEELS / 140MM REAR TRAVEL
Evil Bikes - Wreckoning Frameset
WRECKONING
29" WHEELS / 166MM REAR TRAVEL
Evil Bikes - Insurgent Frameset
INSURGENT
27.5" & MX29 / 168MM REAR TRAVEL
So looking at the rear travel... going for Insurgent is the best choice for the money ?
on evil website.. here are the bike that they are selling
Rider Owned, Designed and Operated in Bellingham, WA
Evil Bikes - Following Frameset
FOLLOWING
29" WHEELS / 120MM REAR TRAVEL
Evil Bikes - Offering Frameset
OFFERING
29" WHEELS / 140MM REAR TRAVEL
Evil Bikes - Wreckoning Frameset
WRECKONING
29" WHEELS / 166MM REAR TRAVEL
Evil Bikes - Insurgent Frameset
INSURGENT
27.5" & MX29 / 168MM REAR TRAVEL
So looking at the rear travel... going for Insurgent is the best choice for the money ?
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Choice depends on what terrain you ride. My bike is 160F, 150R 21 Stumpjumper Evo and I ride a mix of trails from fire roads to rocky and chunky roads and trails in Southern California. I like having longish suspension as it provides me comfort and I am ok with not having a bike with XC efficiency. A popular in-between is probably the trial bike category with 130 to 140mm travel.
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More travel doesn't equate to better bike. The better a bike is at downhill, typically the worse it is climbing up, so you'll need to find a balance. Personally, I'd go with the Insurgent cause I prefer 27.5" wheels and ride a lot of bike parks. The Offering I'd get if I wanted 29" wheels cause it's great for bike parks, enduro end more aggressive trail riding which is what I'm mostly doing. The Wreckoning is too much bike for me.
Also, if you're just learning about rear shocks, chances are you're not gonna need 168mm ... That's for steeper, technical terrain and launching bike park type jumps and drops.
For the majority of riders, that Offering will be MORE than enough bike. That said, if you are riding aggressive terrain and expert/advanced bike park trails, then yeah, you might want more travel.
My buddy is 6'2 220lbs with 140mm rear travel and there's pretty much nothing he doesn't ride at bike parks, so it's very capable. Evil says on their website the Offering is perfect for trail/enduro, which I saw you mention in another post.
Also, if you're just learning about rear shocks, chances are you're not gonna need 168mm ... That's for steeper, technical terrain and launching bike park type jumps and drops.
For the majority of riders, that Offering will be MORE than enough bike. That said, if you are riding aggressive terrain and expert/advanced bike park trails, then yeah, you might want more travel.
My buddy is 6'2 220lbs with 140mm rear travel and there's pretty much nothing he doesn't ride at bike parks, so it's very capable. Evil says on their website the Offering is perfect for trail/enduro, which I saw you mention in another post.
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All are good. What kind of terrain do you want to ride on? Do you favor climbing or descending? Do you ride a lot of tight, technical terrain? Do you like to jump and hit drop offs? Do you blast through rock gardens or do you pick your way through with finesse?
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Going down is kinda technical, switchback, berns, roots, rock garden, in short... Not that flowy.
Anyway, Aside from comfort, longer travel rear suspension means hard to climb?
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Anyway, Aside from comfort, longer travel rear suspension means hard to climb?
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A short travel bike with 120mm travel can be more efficient than a longer travel bike on the climbs and flats especially on smoother trials. On the trials you ride... Are they smoother, rough and rocky, jumps and drops? Wide dirt road or narrow dirt roads? Gravel? Describe the trials you ride.
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Not necessarily harder to climb but can be slightly less efficient in some circumstances. Bases on your trial description you may enjoy someone in the 130 to 140mm travel range. A good compromise in pedal efficiency and bump absorption.
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No.
My long travel bike climbs just as well as my mid-travel bike.
The geometry and additional travel don't hinder the longer travel bike for climbing at all.
In those two respects -- geo & travel -- one is as good as the other.
But my longer travel bike weighs more. This is the only disadvantage for climbing -- I have to haul more weight up the hill.
Think of it this way. Longer travel bikes are generally purchased by riders who intend to utilize the additional travel.
Meaning more jumping, faster riding over hectic terrain, more rowdiness in general.
So the frame, pivots, links, everything are built to take more abuse than a shorter travel frame.
In order to build a structure that withstands more abuse, generally speaking more material is used.
So the frame & suspension components usually weigh more.
Then you've gotta get that weight up the hill.
So what's your priority? More pleasure going uphill (lighter bike, typically less travel) or more pleasure going downhill (typically heavier bike)?
Answer this question and you'll have the answer to your other question.
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Im riding an xc fs as of the moment.
However, lately Ive been introduced to proper bike park (more technical) in my area, Im shopping now for a new bike with longer suspension.
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