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Sorry for cross posting this, but I wanted to get info from all angles on these forks, but you guys are the experts:D . I will copy my other post here, but for reference here it is: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?p=3259449#post3259449

So I have tried unsuccessfully twice now running Lyriks on my Nomad with my 07 Hope M4's (183mm rotor). On both forks, the adapter his the inner part of the rotor. See my last post here: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...24#post3259424

So I think a new fork may be my only solution as I am not parting with my brakes.

So the other forks that come to mind that are in the 6+ inch range are the 36 Fox's or the Marz 66.

From what I have read, the 08 Fox's are nice, the Marz's are hit and miss with problems. The Marz owners seem to love their forks even if they had problems, and the Fox's just seem to be good all around forks with alot of people loving them as well.

I am basically a "set it and forget it" guy, but I am not opposed to some initial period fiddling to get a good ride. I just don't want to be constantly messing with it all the time.

My only caveat is that it has to have a 20mm TA, and it has to have some kind of quick release on it, as I have to take my front wheel off to transport my rig.

I am going to cross post this in the SC forum, but I know alot of you have experience with these forks that don't dare go in there.

Any and all advice is welcome, thanks, your help is appreciated.
 

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Just wait on the 08 Talas 36 RC2

If you are looking for a decent fork that is not too heavy and has a quick release for 20mm hubs, then I recommend you the new Talas 08 fork. Dealers are already getting stock and this fork has the 160mm travel (with the option to reduce travel to 100mm as a personal preference) which matches the Nomad recommended head angles nicely.
 

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You need to take your fork to your LBS and have the brake mounting holes faced. Some forks come with too much paint or powdercoat which forces the adapter closer to the rotor. Face the mounts properly, which will move the adapter away from the rotor, and enable you to have greater alignment adjustability.
 

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Dusty Bottoms said:
You need to take your fork to your LBS and have the brake mounting holes faced. Some forks come with too much paint or powdercoat which forces the adapter closer to the rotor. Face the mounts properly, which will move the adapter away from the rotor, and enable you to have greater alignment adjustability.
That would only help on IS mounts, correct? I don't see how you could, or why it would help, to face post mount holes.
 

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How long have you had this post up now??? Your still willing to go to an inferior fork just so you can use those stupid 2 piece riveted (the rivets are what hits) Hope rotors??? Sheesh if only I were in the market for a Lyrik right now I'd gladly take it off your hands, LMAO!!! Just put on a one piece rotor (like a Galfer that's actually BETTER than the Hope) for Crissakes and BE DONE WITH IT!!! Or simply go to the 203mm Hope rotor in the front like most peeps that actually use their brain. (sorry if that's brash but you've been told the answer several times now and I'm beginning to think this is just a running joke with you).

Have FUN!

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Gman086 said:
How long have you had this post up now??? Your still willing to go to an inferior fork just so you can use those stupid 2 piece riveted (the rivets are what hits) Hope rotors??? Sheesh if only I were in the market for a Lyrik right now I'd gladly take it off your hands, LMAO!!! Just put on a one piece rotor (like a Galfer that's actually BETTER than the Hope) for Crissakes and BE DONE WITH IT!!! Or simply go to the 203mm Hope rotor in the front like most peeps that actually use their brain. (sorry if that's brash but you've been told the answer several times now and I'm beginning to think this is just a running joke with you).

Have FUN!

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#1 - I didn't dig up this post, I have left it alone since the 3 weeks ago I posted it when I was frustated as hell with my situation. Someone else dug it up and responded, and I replied.

#2 - How much better or inferior a part is is very objective and opinionated. If you aren't a Hope and/or Fox fan, understandable. For the record, I love my Lyrik coil, as I love Hopes. Part of what made me what to dump it for a Fox was that RS couldn't tell me why I could get a certain set up with the brakes to work on the coil, but the exact same set up wouldn't work on the Solo Air. While they were helpful, their evasion of answering that question annoyed me.

#3 - Why the hell would I need a 203mm rotor in the front? I ride aggro XC and light freeride. All a 203 rotor will do will get bent up. my 183's have more than enough stopping power.

#4 - It's not a running joke. I just started riding again after 6 years, have no extra gear, and dropped a boat load of money on my bike, and all I want to do is ride. I know you were trying to be helpful, but why is that hard to see that that is frustrating?
 

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Take a dremel, or sandpaper if you are patient, to the inside of the adapter and clearance it enough to clear your rotors. I had to do that to clear my hayes adapters when I swap wheels to my other bike.
 

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If I spent all that money I'd be frustrated too so I can sympathize. But please just try a one piece rotor! Hopes are NICE brakes but their rotors aren't the magic behind the design. I think you'll be very happy with a Galfer rotor in front (Hope pays Galfer a royalty BTW for their wave rotor design - everyone using it does). FWIW I run Hayes (FAR inferior to the Hopes you run) BUT with 185 Galfer rotors on my Intense M3 with EBC red pads and it works AWESOME!

Good Luck,

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Dude,
Marzocchi 55s. They are lighter 66s. Thats what you need. They should be out in October according to the LBS.

When I build my Nomad next year thats what I am getting. Concern over reliability, yeah, but like you said Marz owners are a loyal bunch.
 

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Gman086 said:
If I spent all that money I'd be frustrated too so I can sympathize. But please just try a one piece rotor! Hopes are NICE brakes but their rotors aren't the magic behind the design. I think you'll be very happy with a Galfer rotor in front (Hope pays Galfer a royalty BTW for their wave rotor design - everyone using it does). FWIW I run Hayes (FAR inferior to the Hopes you run) BUT with 185 Galfer rotors on my Intense M3 with EBC red pads and it works AWESOME!

Good Luck,

G
WORD! I was reading through this thread, and I can't believe you would be looking for a new fork ($900 or so) when the problem is obviously with the rotor ($30 tops!!!!!) Jeez man! go with the easiest and cheapest solution first. Replacing the fork would be my last choice in this situation. you just missed out on 3 weeks of riding, I would be pissed. Listen to Gman, a rotor is a rotor!!!!
 

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I have seem many a post mount Hope Mono4 on RS forks (and the lower mounts are all the same), so it should all work fine. What hub are you running? My first though is your rotor is to close to he fork. A pic of 2 would be helpful to, so we can see what you have and how it is all set up.
 

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I have seem many a post mount Hope Mono4 on RS forks (and the lower mounts are all the same), so it should all work fine. What hub are you running? My first though is your rotor is to close to he fork. A pic of 2 would be helpful to, so we can see what you have and how it is all set up.
check the pic I posted towards the bottom of the first page here: http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=306948

Larry (Ventanarama) also thought it might be the hub, which I am inclined to agree now as well. I just don't have a different hub to test the theory, and my buddy's has the same hub as me.

And yes, buying a new fork was an idea stemming from frustration from everything not working right and RS and Hope pointing the finger at each other. No way I am going to buy a new Fox.

For now I have got my 183 working, it's stupid close, but it's on. So I think switching to a 1 piece rotor would probably give me a more reasonable amount of clearance.

Sorry for all the ranting and raving guys, just venting out my frustrations.
 
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