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I'm stumped here... very new to mountain biking and I've been using my dad's very old no suspension Marin which has been a ton of fun but I'm ready to dive in... I'm trying to find a bike now probably full suspension and I'm guessing a medium frame. I like downhill a lot but I actually love technical uphill and would like to get really good with balance and tech stuff on one wheel, that's my goal. It's definitely not easy and I'm expecting it to be years of practice but I love it. Anyway, suggestions on bikes? I'm hoping to spend 2000 or under and happy to get a used bike. Thank you so much for reading and any suggestions I would greatly appreciate!
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Specialized offer good bikes, but I would avoid anything pre-2019. Before the 2019 model year, Specialized used a lot of proprietary parts, so finding replacements when things break is going to be difficult. I realize you said you want to stay under $2000, but if you’re willing to spend $1900 on a 5-year old bike, I would look at the new Stumpjumper alloy for $2500. It’s a little over your desired price range, but you’re going to get a far better bike for a small price jump. And you’ll avoid proprietary headaches when you need something fixed or replaced. You might even be able to talk your bike shop into a small discount if you commit to the sale. Just don’t be surprised if they don’t budge on the price because of the supply-and-demand issues these days.
Otherwise, Pinkbike is another MTB social media site that has a buy/sell page. I would look there as well for bikes you may like.
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Specialized offer good bikes, but I would avoid anything pre-2019. Before the 2019 model year, Specialized used a lot of proprietary parts, so finding replacements when things break is going to be difficult. I realize you said you want to stay under $2000, but if you’re willing to spend $1900 on a 5-year old bike, I would look at the new Stumpjumper alloy for $2500. It’s a little over your desired price range, but you’re going to get a far better bike for a small price jump. And you’ll avoid proprietary headaches when you need something fixed or replaced. You might even be able to talk your bike shop into a small discount if you commit to the sale. Just don’t be surprised if they don’t budge on the price because of the supply-and-demand issues these days.
Otherwise, Pinkbike is another MTB social media site that has a buy/sell page. I would look there as well for bikes you may like.
Thank you so much, that is wonderful advice. I'll check that site out too.
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Check out the Polygon Siskiu T7 or D7 in small. The bike shop can work on any brand so don't worry about that. SISKIU T7 | Mountain Bikes | Polygon Bikes
Check out the Polygon Siskiu T7 or D7 in small. The bike shop can work on any brand so don't worry about that. SISKIU T7 | Mountain Bikes | Polygon Bikes
Thank you very much. Sucks they're out of medium, I really think I need that size.
Don't lock into a brand or size at this point. See as many models as you can. That's the most important piece of advice here. Supply and stock issues will make that a lot more challenging than in the past, but you're coming from a completely different bike. Geometry changed drastically several years ago. There's also no standard reference for "small", "medium", etc. sizes. Bikes used to marked by the seat tube length and the rest of the geometry was pretty similar. That went out the window some years ago. Definitely try as many bikes as you can from as many brands as you can. Look particularly at stack and reach numbers (basically the height to the steerer tube and horizontal distance from the bottom bracket to the steerer tube). Those are pretty good indicators of fit. You can start comparing other variables but stack and reach can vary significantly for different bikes marked the same "size." Once you get a fit in mind, compare different packages at similar price points. Prioritize hubs, fork and shock because those are among the most expensive components and the ones that will effect ride quality the most. You may find one particular model in a price point is giving you, for example, a higher quality fork than the others. Don't sweat things like derailleurs, brakes, tires and seat. Oddly those are the bits that are used to sell bikes but don't bite. Shimano or SRAM derailleur or brakes is spec'd is going to be fine until you ride more and get picky. They all work well. Shifters are more important than derailleurs in terms of shifting, but few new buyers look there. Tires are wear items and easy enough to swap out. Seats are highly personal, cheap relative to the other components, and you'll find one that you like (everyone's sit parts act a bit differently). On a fixed budget prioritize those parts that have the biggest impact on ride quality. Quality-wise it's hard to go wrong with a bike from a reputable bike shop, whether its Specialized or another brand. But, don't buy brand; buy fit. Also, don't rule out a hardtail. It'll be cheaper than full suspension, easier to set up correctly and have less service/maintenance issues. A good hardtail will also ride very nicely. Whatever you get, make sure the shop sets up the fork and shock (on a full suspension) for your weight. You'll wind up playing with it as you ride more and develop preferences, but a bad set up will greatly affect your ride.

Buying a used bike can be a very good purchase but it is also a very risky proposition. You need to have a good knowledge of bikes or go with someone who does. You also already need to know what fit you're looking for and what you're getting with a particular bike. Too many used bikes are bought with mechanical problems either because the owner doesn't know any better or doesn't care that he or she is off-loading a problem. Used bikes can also be very over-priced. The owner lovingly rode, spec'd and serviced that bike. That makes it hard to objectively price the bike. If you look at used bikes, do it in person and not just on-line, know what the actual value of the bike is, and either you need to be knowledgable or go with someone who is. Not someone who is generally mechanically good; someone who knows how to work on bikes more than changing flats or lubing a chain. Also keep in mind a used bike, even an awesome, perfect one, may have out-dated geometry or fit. For example, the two bikes you posted both look to have steep head angles and short reach compared to current models. Please bear in mind that's a quick eye test and dependent on how the pictures were taken. Also bear in mind that may be great for you or it may not. Only you can decide that and for that you need to try out different options. I'm just pointing out that a nicely spec'd full suspension bike from 2016 may or may not suit you well compared to the very same model from 2021 simply because the geometry has changed. You can't just look at the brand or model.
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Don't lock into a brand or size at this point. See as many models as you can. That's the most important piece of advice here. Supply and stock issues will make that a lot more challenging than in the past, but you're coming from a completely different bike. Geometry changed drastically several years ago. There's also no standard reference for "small", "medium", etc. sizes. Bikes used to marked by the seat tube length and the rest of the geometry was pretty similar. That went out the window some years ago. Definitely try as many bikes as you can from as many brands as you can. Look particularly at stack and reach numbers (basically the height to the steerer tube and horizontal distance from the bottom bracket to the steerer tube). Those are pretty good indicators of fit. You can start comparing other variables but stack and reach can vary significantly for different bikes marked the same "size." Once you get a fit in mind, compare different packages at similar price points. Prioritize hubs, fork and shock because those are among the most expensive components and the ones that will effect ride quality the most. You may find one particular model in a price point is giving you, for example, a higher quality fork than the others. Don't sweat things like derailleurs, brakes, tires and seat. Oddly those are the bits that are used to sell bikes but don't bite. Shimano or SRAM derailleur or brakes is spec'd is going to be fine until you ride more and get picky. They all work well. Shifters are more important than derailleurs in terms of shifting, but few new buyers look there. Tires are wear items and easy enough to swap out. Seats are highly personal, cheap relative to the other components, and you'll find one that you like (everyone's sit parts act a bit differently). On a fixed budget prioritize those parts that have the biggest impact on ride quality. Quality-wise it's hard to go wrong with a bike from a reputable bike shop, whether its Specialized or another brand. But, don't buy brand; buy fit. Also, don't rule out a hardtail. It'll be cheaper than full suspension, easier to set up correctly and have less service/maintenance issues. A good hardtail will also ride very nicely. Whatever you get, make sure the shop sets up the fork and shock (on a full suspension) for your weight. You'll wind up playing with it as you ride more and develop preferences, but a bad set up will greatly affect your ride.

Buying a used bike can be a very good purchase but it is also a very risky proposition. You need to have a good knowledge of bikes or go with someone who does. You also already need to know what fit you're looking for and what you're getting with a particular bike. Too many used bikes are bought with mechanical problems either because the owner doesn't know any better or doesn't care that he or she is off-loading a problem. Used bikes can also be very over-priced. The owner lovingly rode, spec'd and serviced that bike. That makes it hard to objectively price the bike. If you look at used bikes, do it in person and not just on-line, know what the actual value of the bike is, and either you need to be knowledgable or go with someone who is. Not someone who is generally mechanically good; someone who knows how to work on bikes more than changing flats or lubing a chain. Also keep in mind a used bike, even an awesome, perfect one, may have out-dated geometry or fit. For example, the two bikes you posted both look to have steep head angles and short reach compared to current models. Please bear in mind that's a quick eye test and dependent on how the pictures were taken. Also bear in mind that may be great for you or it may not. Only you can decide that and for that you need to try out different options. I'm just pointing out that a nicely spec'd full suspension bike from 2016 may or may not suit you well compared to the very same model from 2021 simply because the geometry has changed. You can't just look at the brand or model.
Wow thank you, you're right. I'm trying to figure out sizes. It's tough to try things out literally every bike shop is out.
If you have a local bike club, that could be a good resource. Members generally are dedicated bike geeks who love helping riders. Also because they’re local there’s more accountability and so less chance of someone intentionally trying to take advantage. No one wants to be known as “that guy” around the local trails. Club might be able to put you onto demos if that’s still a thing in COVID bike times and might know of people selling good used bikes. It’s your hard-earned money. Don’t jump at something. New, used or whatever it has to fit.
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Wow thank you, you're right. I'm trying to figure out sizes. It's tough to try things out literally every bike shop is out.
Which bike did you try in a Small? We'll look at the geo and help you compare sizing. Also measure your inseam with shoes. Not pants inseam.
If you have a local bike club, that could be a good resource. Members generally are dedicated bike geeks who love helping riders. Also because they’re local there’s more accountability and so less chance of someone intentionally trying to take advantage. No one wants to be known as “that guy” around the local trails. Club might be able to put you onto demos if that’s still a thing in COVID bike times and might know of people selling good used bikes. It’s your hard-earned money. Don’t jump at something. New, used or whatever it has to fit.
Again you're right. I'm just really anxious to get out there!
If you have a local bike club, that could be a good resource. Members generally are dedicated bike geeks who love helping riders. Also because they’re local there’s more accountability and so less chance of someone intentionally trying to take advantage. No one wants to be known as “that guy” around the local trails. Club might be able to put you onto demos if that’s still a thing in COVID bike times and might know of people selling good used bikes. It’s your hard-earned money. Don’t jump at something. New, used or whatever it has to fit.
You're right. Just anxious to get out there.
There is a "women's lounge" listed under "forums". While you're welcome everywhere, that forum might provide you with valuable information.
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The advantage of a used bike is that you can get a carbon frame bike for the cost of a new aluminum frame one. It comes down to having the patience to wait until you can find one in a size that will fit. With the new Specialize S sizing there are more options based on a persons body dimensions.

Best to spend time getting a good idea what size frame will fit well as one that is too small or too large/long is going to steepen your learning curve. Lots of variation in torso and arm length so buying a bike for someone your height may not be optimum.

Bikes now come with 27.5 or 29 inch tires and older bikes are more likely to have 26 inch ones and this can be a limitation in terms of what you can later get when you sell it. Older bikes will not have 11 much less 12 speeds at the rear and be sure that what you get has a usable dropper post. Same goes for hydraulic disc brakes. Expensive to make upgrades later a piece at a time.
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Check out the Polygon Siskiu T7 or D7 in small. The bike shop can work on any brand so don't worry about that. SISKIU T7 | Mountain Bikes | Polygon Bikes
I used to make a list of all the plants I wanted to buy for my property but soon found that they were seldom in stock and better to see what was available and then make my selection.

This past year I bought a medium frame Scott Scale hardtail and a medium frame Specialized Stumpjumper full suspension bike. I chose from what was available in my size at local bike shops and this eliminated 95% of the mountain bikes and made the decision of what to buy much easier.

I also found that the Stumpjumper carbon frame bike increased in price by $500 in the past 6 months or an annualized 20% price increase. Tire prices have increased by 25% and many other bike parts so I suggest if buying a new bike to do so sooner rather than later. On the other hand I am seeing some good prices for used full suspension carbon frame bikes in the $2500 to $3000 range.
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