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Budget $1500 max. I would like to get one cheaper. I'm open to other brands as long as they stand by their work and offer a good frame breakage warrantee. I have not problem buying a nice used bike. 2009,2010,2011,2012.
Needs-
-10 speed cassette
-90-120mm front shock
-middle to upper end components. Shimano LX are ok (this would be a like) I could upgrade later.
-welded if possible rims (stronger ones)
-medium size frame. I’m 5' 7" inseam
Wants-
Hartail great or full suspension fantastic!


Thanks for any information you could give me to help guide my purchase decision.
 

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Go test ride a few. Ask your bike shop if they've got any demo's you can take to the trails. People love all the brands you mentioned, so there is no wrong choice. You just have to get what fits you best.
 

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any of those brands would work for you. as you do searches on this site, you'll see many say ride as many as you can and see which one feels best. i agree! my wife has the trek xcal that seems to meet your needs- i don't know much about the rims though.

also take a look at the salsa el mar- you might be able to get one in your price range. don't limit it to just those brands though- go out to every shop within however many miles you want to travel and check them out.

enjoy!
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Most of the big brands will stand by their work. If you are concerned about warranty, I would not recommend that you buy used since the warranty never transfers to the second owner.

Like the others have suggested, test ride any and all you can find. Hardtail and full suspension are two different beasts. You will give up higher level parts if you choose a full suspension. Spend as much as you can. You always spend more upgrading later. Don't go into it saying you'll spend $1500 max only to spend $1000... the extra $500 you spend would get you a whole lotta better bike. The big brands have bikes at every price point. Set your max and find the most bike you can for that price.
 

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I am at the same budget and doing my research. I am only intrested in hardtail 29ers so I can only let you know what I have come up with those only.

At this time I have finally come down to Bergamont Revox 6.1 2011
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Scott Scale 29 Team 2012

I think they are the best I can find for my budget. They are fairly light, Bergamont at 11.9 kg and Scott Team at 12.5 kg.

The main difference between them is the fork (Rock Shox Tora TK 29 Alu vs Rock ROCKSHOX Reba RL, 100mm) and maybe the crankset (Shimano Deore / FC-M590 vs SRAM S1000 3.3).

Unfortunatelly I can't find any of these in my city to ride them and tell you which feels better. I surelly believe that Scott looks better.

I have also checked any 29er I could find in Europe (specs vs cost) and I believe these two are the best value for money.
Here are the specs of each

Frame
BERGAMONT 29“ MTB Alloy 6061 Ultra Lite Tubing, Hydroformed, 3D forged Dropouts, Race-Geometrie
Size
S/M/L/XL/XXL
Color
matt grey-blue
Fork
ROCKSHOX Reba RL, 100mm, 29“, Motion Control, External Rebound, Low Speed Compression to ‘Lock‘ with internal Floodgate
Shifting System
SRAM X7
Derailleur Control
SRAM X7
Derailleur
SRAM X7
Brake
AVID Elixir 3, 185/160mm Rotor
Saddle
TATTOO Pro
Seat Post
TATTOO HP-L, 31,6 x 350mm
Handlebar
TATTOO HP-L
Stem
TATTOO HP-L
Headset
FSA ZS-4, Semi-Integrated, Cartridge Bearing
Rim
ALEX EN-24 29“, 32L, geöst
Tires
SCHWALBE Racing Ralph, 29 x 2,25 (57-622), Performance, faltbar
Hub
SRAM MTH-406
Spoke
CN double butted
Inner Bearing
TRUVATIV Giga-X Pipe
Crankset
SRAM S1000 3.3, 44/33/22Z
Low Gear Sprockets
SRAM PG-1050, 12-36Z, 10-fach
Chain
SRAM PG-1051
Extras
Gewicht: ca. 11,9 Kg



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Weight 12.50 kg / 27.53 lbs
Frame Scale 29 Alloy 6061, custom butted superlight tubing, forged race disc dropouts PM160, bridgeless seatstays, Integ. Headset, replaceable hanger
Fork Rock Shox XC 32 TK 29 Coil, Alloy Steerer, remote Lockout, rebound adjustable, 100mm travel
Headset Ritchey OE 1 1/8“, semi integrated 44/50mm
Derailleur (Rear) Shimano SLX, RD-M663 SGS, Shadow Type, 30 Speed
Derailleur (Front) Shimano Deore, FC-M590-10, 34.9mm
Shifters Shimano Deore, SL-M591-10, Rapidfire Plus, 2 way release, w/gear indicator
Brake Levers Shimano BL-M445 Disc
Brakes nShimano BR-M446 Disc, 180/F and 160/R mm Rotor
Chainring Shimano FC-M522, 42Ax32Ax24T
BB-Set Shimano ES25 Octalink, 68-118mm
Handlebar Scott Hot Rod T OS 31.8mm, T shape Flat, 680mm, 9° bend
H'stem Scott Comp, 4 Bolt, OS 31.8mm, 1 1/8“, -6° angle
Pedals Wellgo C128
Seatpost Scott Comp zero offset, 31.6mm
Seat Scott Racing
Hub (Front) Scott Team Disc CL
Hub (Rear) Shimano FH-RM66 Disc CL
Chain Shimano CN-HG54
Cassette Shimano CS-HG62-10, 11-36 T
Spokes Stainless Black 15G, 1.8mm
Rims Alex XC-49 Disc, 32H, Eyelets
Tyres Schwalbe Rocket Ron, 29 x 2.25, 67EPI, Kevlar bead, Performance Series

I would also, appreciate an opinion on those.

I have also checked Trek, Giant, Specialized, Cannondale, Ideal, on-one (looked really good but out of stock), and I couldn't find in Europe niner so I didn't check those.
 

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I've been riding an Airborne Goblin for around 6 months that has been fantastic. 1300 bucks, 2x10 x7 and a Reba fork. Couple reviews have been up now from twentynineinches.com and dirtrag if you can handle mail order merchandise.
 

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OK I have to decide in the next one hour. I am thinking of buying one of the following three


Ghost HTX 29 Actinum 7000 2012
Features:
• Frame: HTX 29 Actinum AFT SCL
• Stem: GHOST light AS-007N 31.8 mm
• Fork: RST First 29 Air SRL 100 mm
• Headset: Ritchey Tapered
• Handlebar: GHOST Flat light 680 mm 31.8 mm
• Seatpost: GHOST light SP 600 27.2 mm
• Saddle: GHOST VL 1695
• Rear Derailleur: Shimano SLX 10-Speed
• Front Derailleur: Shimano SLX
• Shifter: Shimano Deore SL
• Brake lever: Avid Elixir 1
• Bottom Bracket: Shimano Pressfit BB
• Crankset: Shimano FCM 552 42-32-24
• Brakes: Avid Elixir 1 Disc 180 mm
• Front Tires: Schwalbe Rapid Rob 2.25
• Rear Tires: Schwalbe Rapid Rob 2.25
• Rims: Alex XD Sport
• Spokes: DT Swiss 1.8
• Hubs: SRAM 306
• Cassette: Shimano CS-HG62 11-34
• Travel: 100mm
• Weight: 11.90kg


Bergamont Revox 6.1 29er 2011
Frame
BERGAMONT 29“ MTB Alloy 6061 Ultra Lite Tubing, Hydroformed, 3D forged Dropouts, Race-Geometrie
Size
S/M/L/XL/XXL
Color
matt grey-blue
Fork
ROCKSHOX Reba RL, 100mm, 29“, Motion Control, External Rebound, Low Speed Compression to ‘Lock‘ with internal Floodgate
Shifting System
SRAM X7
Derailleur Control
SRAM X7
Derailleur
SRAM X7
Brake
AVID Elixir 3, 185/160mm Rotor
Saddle
TATTOO Pro
Seat Post
TATTOO HP-L, 31,6 x 350mm
Handlebar
TATTOO HP-L
Stem
TATTOO HP-L
Headset
FSA ZS-4, Semi-Integrated, Cartridge Bearing
Rim
ALEX EN-24 29“, 32L, geöst
Tires
SCHWALBE Racing Ralph, 29 x 2,25 (57-622), Performance, faltbar
Hub
SRAM MTH-406
Spoke
CN double butted
Inner Bearing
TRUVATIV Giga-X Pipe
Crankset
SRAM S1000 3.3, 44/33/22Z
Low Gear Sprockets
SRAM PG-1050, 12-36Z, 10-fach
Chain
SRAM PG-1051
Extras
Gewicht: ca. 11,9 Kg



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Scott Scale Team 29 2012
Weight 12.50 kg / 27.53 lbs
Frame Scale 29 Alloy 6061, custom butted superlight tubing, forged race disc dropouts PM160, bridgeless seatstays, Integ. Headset, replaceable hanger
Fork Rock Shox XC 32 TK 29 Coil, Alloy Steerer, remote Lockout, rebound adjustable, 100mm travel
Headset Ritchey OE 1 1/8“, semi integrated 44/50mm
Derailleur (Rear) Shimano SLX, RD-M663 SGS, Shadow Type, 30 Speed
Derailleur (Front) Shimano Deore, FC-M590-10, 34.9mm
Shifters Shimano Deore, SL-M591-10, Rapidfire Plus, 2 way release, w/gear indicator
Brake Levers Shimano BL-M445 Disc
Brakes nShimano BR-M446 Disc, 180/F and 160/R mm Rotor
Chainring Shimano FC-M522, 42Ax32Ax24T
BB-Set Shimano ES25 Octalink, 68-118mm
Handlebar Scott Hot Rod T OS 31.8mm, T shape Flat, 680mm, 9° bend
H'stem Scott Comp, 4 Bolt, OS 31.8mm, 1 1/8“, -6° angle
Pedals Wellgo C128
Seatpost Scott Comp zero offset, 31.6mm
Seat Scott Racing
Hub (Front) Scott Team Disc CL
Hub (Rear) Shimano FH-RM66 Disc CL
Chain Shimano CN-HG54
Cassette Shimano CS-HG62-10, 11-36 T
Spokes Stainless Black 15G, 1.8mm
Rims Alex XC-49 Disc, 32H, Eyelets
Tyres Schwalbe Rocket Ron, 29 x 2.25, 67EPI, Kevlar bead, Performance Series




Which of these has the best components? Which forks are better?

I like more the Ghost and Scott colors and shape, but in terms of component quality I don't have the knowledge to decide. I also can't find any of these to ride it, here in my city.


Please Help!!!:rolleyes:
 

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Just buy the Giant XTC 29er2. Aside from the one pound weight difference the Marzocchi 44 fork is suppose to perform at a level that's on par with Fox's F29.

The Giant also comes with a 15mm fork,this is such a huge feature that's not even. I changed my front wheel and fork on my Gary Fisher Rig from a regular Fox fork to a 15mm FiT fork and it makes huge difference in how the bike handles. In fact the bike even accelerates better with the new fork/wheel combination. It cost me over $700 to make this change.

If you spend over $1,000 you absolutely should have bike with a 15mm t/a fork or else you're gettting ripped off.
 

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Just buy the Giant XTC 29er2. Aside from the one pound weight difference the Marzocchi 44 fork is suppose to perform at a level that's on par with Fox's F29.
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+1 on checking out the Xtc 29er2. I also noticed that it comes with tubeless ready racing ralphs($80 each retail), which are very pricey tires. Many bikes in the range come with so-so tires that have to be replaced. This bike has a tapered steerer and a 15mm out of the box. It has cheaper but ok deore derrailer, but that is an easy upgrade after it breaks. Should work fine for the first year or so at any rate. I know that I am putting this bike on my short list along with the x-cal, superfly al and the Felt 9.

In fact this may be at the top of the list now at $1400 it can be upgraded (in 6 months or so) with new lighter wheels and still be about the same cost as a superfly al.
 

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Just buy the Giant XTC 29er2. Aside from the one pound weight difference the Marzocchi 44 fork is suppose to perform at a level that's on par with Fox's F29.

The Giant also comes with a 15mm fork,this is such a huge feature that's not even. I changed my front wheel and fork on my Gary Fisher Rig from a regular Fox fork to a 15mm FiT fork and it makes huge difference in how the bike handles. In fact the bike even accelerates better with the new fork/wheel combination. It cost me over $700 to make this change.

If you spend over $1,000 you absolutely should have bike with a 15mm t/a fork or else you're gettting ripped off.



Thank you for the help.


Unfortunatelly I would have to buy it for 1500 to 1700 euros. Is there a cheaper bike with a 15mm fork? How about the three bikes I have posted here? Is one of those better than the other?
 

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Budget $1500 max. I would like to get one cheaper.
This is the season for great deals. You should be able to get a whole lotta bike for $1500. Last September I bought a Trek Fuel EX8 for $1300. Originally it was $2200 and a MSRP of $2629.

Last night I bought a 2010 Fisher Cobia for $600 bucks.

You just need to do a little legwork at the LBS. I walk in and ask them what they have for leftovers and what they must get rid of.
 

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How about the three bikes I have posted here? Is one of those better than the other?

How much are they compared to the XTC2 29er? If the difference is only a few hundred euros I would suggest spending the extra money, changing a fork and wheel can be a very costly process. If you decide at some point,hmm I want a 15mm t/a fork you're going regret buying a bike without the t/a fork. I've been there and done that twice it gets expensive.
 
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