[fiveo]

Anyone have any info if a new WFO is in the works?

 

[fiveo]

Nada? Nothing? Zilch? No one heard anything? I thought they hinted at a new WFO when the new Rip dropped.

Make since I have a 100mm RKT. 120mm Jet 140mm Rip and 160mm WFO

Or are they all in with Gravel?

 

[kamper11]

another poster eluded to "wait til the new WFO comes out" - in another thread -

I suspect they will and that does seem a "hot" space right now - enduro ready long travel 29er that climbs - the old WFO was highly regarded during its lifetime -

 

[fiveo]

This summer. And it’s big!

 

[terrible]

Believe it when I see it.

 

[fiveo]

Talked to Niner rep at Sedona Mtb festival. He showed my a pic of the mold. He claimed Kurt was there riding one. Didn’t get to stick around long enough to see it. Possibly 180/170 with the new Fox 38. Frame looked like a beefed up Rip. Also had frame ribs.

Would make sense why rip went back to a 140 bike

 

[06HokieMTB]

Man, I love the way CVA pedals. (Had a previous generation 150mm RIP9) Big, burly, long travel CVA? Color me interested.

 

[fiveo]

Right now I’m pretty sold on the Ripmo AF. 4k for a coil and carbon wheels is hard to beat. But a WFO very much compliment the Jet

 

[fiveo]

So Niner is claiming a pedal WFO is in the works. Any speculation is it will be basically the eWFO minus the motor and Horst link? Could they just swap out the HL for CVA and be done? For me I would like to see a 160/170 bike.

 

[bear]

So Niner is claiming a pedal WFO is in the works. Any speculation is it will be basically the eWFO minus the motor and Horst link? Could they just swap out the HL for CVA and be done? For me I would like to see a 160/170 bike.

IIRC the chatter I saw spoke to the HL being used on the 'e' because of the lesser impact of pedalling on suspension, so I'm guessing CVA on the 'p' version of the WFO ... unless they decided there's a different benefit to focusing the WFO on "less pedally" pursuits, then the HL with the increased under-bb clearance may still make more sense.

I'm a little challenged that both linkage types can't be tuned to desired behavior.

OTOH, maybe it's a much lesser effort to tune the eWFO to a pWFO than a whole new frameset.

shrug.

rambling on a Sunday morning. hah!

 

[terrible]

I figured they used the HL because it's cheaper to manufacture than the CVA suspension. And the HL takes up a little less room (as already mentioned).

Also the turds that ride these e-bikes don't stand to pedal. I rarely see them with their ass's off the seat.

 

[rob1208lv]

I'm throwing it out there, a total guess we will see a WFO by Jan. 2021..

 

[fiveo]

Well I hope so. I can’t get a Ripmo or Megatrail before then. Those are my two options right now.

I’ll say it again. They have the frame. It’s a beefed up Rip with rips around the shock. Expect 170/180. I’m hoping its just been delayed due to covid.

 

[Jayem]

IIRC the chatter I saw spoke to the HL being used on the 'e' because of the lesser impact of pedalling on suspension, so I'm guessing CVA on the 'p' version of the WFO ... unless they decided there's a different benefit to focusing the WFO on "less pedally" pursuits, then the HL with the increased under-bb clearance may still make more sense.

I'm a little challenged that both linkage types can't be tuned to desired behavior.

OTOH, maybe it's a much lesser effort to tune the eWFO to a pWFO than a whole new frameset.

shrug.

rambling on a Sunday morning. hah!

They are probably just seeing the light, the CVA has provided basically the same kinematics as older HL bikes for years. If they tweaked it to a better pedaling design, it'd be infringing on the lines of SC, Ibis, etc. HL is free for anyone to use and *can* provide a decent pedaling bike if implemented correctly (which hasn't been done much in the past, but we are finally starting to see improvements over the last couple years). Although HL doesn't really provide any benefit over linkage SP and linkage SP ends up a little stiffer laterally, again, the HL can work just well and there was definitely no reason to be using CVA due to how niner has been tuning the kinematics. It'd be one thing if they were using a flat AS profile like Yeti, SC, Intense, (out to around 50%-75% of travel), but they haven't, just the giant sloping AS, like classic HL bikes.

 

[fiveo]

Come on Niner. Salsa just dropped a 165/180 bike. Freaking Salsa!!

 

[Five0]

Well it’s here. Just like I was told last March. 180/170mm. Vitals say not only were they blown away on how well it pedaled for a 170 bike. They were blown away on how it pedaled for any bike.

6k for GX and Fox Factory 38 and DHX2. Good job Niner. My 3 mo old Pivot FB might go up for sale.

 

[nkofahl]

Looks like a nice bike and a good option to slot into the line above the RIP.

 

[Niner Bikes]

Well it's here. Just like I was told last March. 180/170mm. Vitals say not only were they blown away on how well it pedaled for a 170 bike. They were blown away on how it pedaled for any bike.

6k for GX and Fox Factory 38 and DHX2. Good job Niner. My 3 mo old Pivot FB might go up for sale.

Thank you all for your patience. This bike took a little long to hatch.

Peace,
Niner