Thanks mike I know of those too. Haven’t got up there to check them out. But will for sure this summer. Just built a KHS over winter and ordered new 29” bike I few weeks ago waiting on it not saying name of it cause tends to start a run down. I see it like this I could afford it and it will work for what I want it for and that’s what matters to me. But thank you again I do ride Yough river trail to cause I literally live right at entrance to it.