[PrincipalRider]

Might as well get it started since jmitchell mentioned it. I need to ride Cowboy Trails at least once though. I love those damn trails. But hey, thank goodness there are two days in the weekend. So it looks like the choices are:

1. Bootleg Canyon (very far but okay)
2. Cowboy Trails. (My vote)
3. Cottonwood (Boo, sorry jmitchell)

 

[jmitchell]

Throw some times out there too.......

 

[E !]

Heya!

Might as well get it started since jmitchell mentioned it. I need to ride Cowboy Trails at least once though. I love those damn trails. But hey, thank goodness there are two days in the weekend. So it looks like the choices are:

1. Bootleg Canyon (very far but okay)
2. Cowboy Trails. (My vote)
3. Cottonwood (Boo, sorry jmitchell)

I can do any time around noon on the weekends.
Hey! what's up with not posting times and ride info!(Just kidden')
See ya on the trails!

 

[PrincipalRider]

Alright here is my Saturday choice.

Cowboy Trails 11:00 am.

Since I am determined to get over this confidence issue, I need someone to go with me and call me names that question my masculinity for not riding down certain obstacles. Any takers?

Sunday,

I will leave this one open to you all. I know that some people live in Henderson and Bootleg is preferred but I have also heard Cottonwood mentioned. However, I do like 11:00 because it is late enough to let you somewhat recover from any night before shenanigans, it is not cold, and somehow, it still feels early.

 

[jmitchell]

Since I am determined to get over this confidence issue, I need someone to go with me and call me names that question my masculinity for not riding down certain obstacles. Any takers?

Careful what you wish for, you just might get.

Cowboy trails on Sat at 11 sounds good. I think I'll bring my Lizard out to play. Are we going to ride the bone-shaker? Never done it. Will I regret bringing the hard-tail?

 

[PrincipalRider]

Boneshaker requires lots of suspension (or really good bike handling skills in the air) and lots of guts. It has ledges that you have to launch off of. You cannot roll them and the bottom portion is steep, loose in a very bad way, and off camber. Bob Gnarly is pretty mean too (ask Eric), but not as rough as Boneshaker. So the blur is highly recommended. I knew you would be the first to volunteer to call me names!

 

[PrincipalRider]

Oh yeah, many people I have seen ride the boneshaker wear pads. And I wasn't kidding about the name calling.

 

[E !]

Shoot!

Careful what you wish for, you just might get.

Cowboy trails on Sat at 11 sounds good. I think I'll bring my Lizard out to play. Are we going to ride the bone-shaker? Never done it. Will I regret bringing the hard-tail?

It took me a while to dig this one up. I didn't realize it was last April i rode/walked down the BS on my Rockhopper! I'll skip the link and put in what i wrote at the time.
04-03-2005 #17
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This one's for you James. No camera though. This is the hardest trail i ever rode/walked. It is not an xc trail. It is most definatly a DH trail. I ended up walking down a total of 6 drop-offs. They were atleast 4 foot. If it was over waist high,i wasn't doing it. Then the steepest part of the trail is a series of swithbacks with drops and severe downgrade pitch. This i walked/slid down. This trail makes skyline look like the pow trail. It took about 30-35 to go down this badboy! The beginnig of the trail is awesome and as far as technical. Way techy!
But then again jmitcell, your a bad A$$. What is my sloppy seconds worth?
** now back to current days, I'd like to check out the new trail you pointed out last time or even try that Bob gnarley again(atleast i can ride MOST of it LOL!)***
Oh yah, You can call me any names you like if i show up with the rockhopper...

 

[jmitchell]

It took me a while to dig this one up. I didn't realize it was last April i rode/walked down the BS on my Rockhopper! I'll skip the link and put in what i wrote at the time.
04-03-2005 #17
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This one's for you James. No camera though. This is the hardest trail i ever rode/walked. It is not an xc trail. It is most definatly a DH trail. I ended up walking down a total of 6 drop-offs. They were atleast 4 foot. If it was over waist high,i wasn't doing it. Then the steepest part of the trail is a series of swithbacks with drops and severe downgrade pitch. This i walked/slid down. This trail makes skyline look like the pow trail. It took about 30-35 to go down this badboy! The beginnig of the trail is awesome and as far as technical. Way techy!
But then again jmitcell, your a bad A$$. What is my sloppy seconds worth?
** now back to current days, I'd like to check out the new trail you pointed out last time or even try that Bob gnarley again(atleast i can ride MOST of it LOL!)***
Oh yah, You can call me any names you like if i show up with the rockhopper...

My kind of trail? I seem to be a little timid lately. Let's check 'em out this weekend. I think I have some pads around somewhere.

Joshua - how do they compare to National?

 

[PrincipalRider]

National is more aggressive trailriding where this is definitely DH stuff. Have you ever gone down Telegraph Pass? This is the trail that links National at Buena Vista Lookout to Desert Classic on the south side of South Mountain. Its labout as crazy as that.

Or maybe have you done Geronimo or Holbert?

I would say Boneshaker is not as hard as Holbert, but harder than Geronimo. Of course these are all DH trails for those of you not familiar with Phoenix MTBing.

 

[jmitchell]

National is more aggressive trailriding where this is definitely DH stuff. Have you ever gone down Telegraph Pass? This is the trail that links National at Buena Vista Lookout to Desert Classic on the south side of South Mountain. Its labout as crazy as that.

Or maybe have you done Geronimo or Holbert?

I would say Boneshaker is not as hard as Holbert, but harder than Geronimo. Of course these are all DH trails for those of you not familiar with Phoenix MTBing.

I've never ridden Holbert or Geronimo, they were not popular yet.

Yeah, I kinda remember doing Telegraph Pass on my 95 hard-tail Stumpy with my looooong travel RS Mag 21. I think it had 2 inches of travel (I got a little more out of it by lowering the oil level). And I made my friend jealous when I rode his brand new Y-bike down the "waterfall". But the last time I rode down the waterfall, I crashed on the rock garden at the bottom trying to keep up with this freerider guy Ken on a Psycleworks. He rocked - I knew him through Rage and he played in a local band called Milk Blood, but that's all I remember about him. Side note - I've only seen 2 people ever climb the "waterfall" - this guy Ken and the funny guy that rides with the rhino horn on his helmet. Ever since then I lost some nerve, but at least I still have my teeth. There are definitely some brave riders around these parts these days that trump any skills I have (I'm just an aggresive XC rider).

Am I showing my age or what?

 

[PrincipalRider]

Well, there is one obstacle like the waterfall on Boneshaker. (maybe shorter though) However, what is not on National that is on Boneshaker are those ledges where rolling them really is not an option. Its a matter of speed, confidence, and just launching off. Scary.

 

[Redmon]

Alright here is my Saturday choice.

Cowboy Trails 11:00 am.

Since I am determined to get over this confidence issue, I need someone to go with me and call me names that question my masculinity for not riding down certain obstacles. Any takers?

Sunday,

I will leave this one open to you all. I know that some people live in Henderson and Bootleg is preferred but I have also heard Cottonwood mentioned. However, I do like 11:00 because it is late enough to let you somewhat recover from any night before shenanigans, it is not cold, and somehow, it still feels early.

Oh sure, 1100am is fine and dandy for you normal working stiffs. At the trail by 1100am for me means 4 hours of sleep if Im lucky.

 

[PrincipalRider]

Damn, I have a cold. I just don't care though. I need a ride.
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Sorry Redmon, maybe you could throw something out for Sunday.

 

[Redmon]

Damn, I have a cold. I just don't care though. I need a ride.
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Sorry Redmon, maybe you could throw something out for Sunday.

Sat a no go for me. I rode Friday up at CW. Trails are packing down nicely after so many ruts from the summer storms. Sun Im going to try to be up at Bootleg no later than 1pm