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Water bottle cages...Zipp anyone?

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ShortTravelMag

Discussion Starter · Jun 27, 2006

Just realized my two bottle cages weigh 166 grams...and Zipp makes a carbon cage that is a claimed 19 grams! EEEK, that's about a 1/4 of a pound savings in just 2 bottle cages. Granted, they are $50 each, but just the same.

My question, has anyone used one? Zipp is not an off-road kind of company, so would these hold up for typical XC race use?

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aussie_yeti

· #2 · Jun 27, 2006

the best mtb cages are the cateye plastic ones (BC100). mine pair cost me 10 bucks and weigh 65 grams. never ever ever drop a bottle. if you want lighter - the ravx beto x at 16 grams each are rated for mtb use, haven't tried them on the mtb but no problems on the road bike. people seem to have good luck with the btp mtb cage at 13 grams aswell but they're silly money.

kev0153

· #3 · Jun 27, 2006

I had a Tune Carbon Cage on my MTB and I ended up breaking it when I slammed the bottle back in too hard. I was taking a drink and was coming up on a tricky section and had to put the bottle back in quick. I went with a King Cage after that. They come in around 30 - 35 grams and are very strong. I use Al bolts to save a few more grams.

Duckman

· #4 · Jun 27, 2006

Best mtb cage to me is the King Ti(Cambria has'm). Claimed at 27gms, and holds the dang bottle on the toughest tech descents. I've yet to find a carbon cage that won't loose the bottle at times. And that sucks during a race. I use ti bolts with the King fwiw.

Megaclocker

· #5 · Jun 27, 2006

I use a Good old cheap plastic one, listed a 40g for 6$ at my LBS

They work well and they are cheap

http://www.profile-design.com/2006_product_pages/hydration/stryke.html :thumbsup:

With 2 of these you will save 80g for 12$

ShortTravelMag

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 27, 2006

Thanks for the input. I have had many plastic cages, never liked them much, big and ugly...call me vain if you will. Maybe the King cages are the way to go, they are almost a standard in the race world, not?

Ultra Magnus

· #7 · Jun 27, 2006 (Edited)

Minoura Dura Cage- comes in a variety of ano colors, 39g, comes with al bolts, for like $5 each. I even use one under my down tube, with large 28oz water bottles, never drop any even on the roughest, fastest, bumpies dh chutes... I did drop one when I first got them, and all I did was bend the holder part up a bit for the bottom bottle, and it's been 100% reliabe. As far as dollars per gram, it's a great value. I haven't been able to bring myself to spend $100 ond a pair of Ti or carbon cages, and in the case of the carbon cages, that may not even hold a bottle. At least the al cages are "tunable" by bending a bit if you need them to hold better...

These are the only two pics on my hard drive here at work that shows both bottle cages...

pimpbot

· #8 · Jun 28, 2006 (Edited)

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I like my Tacx

curtlo-dork said:
Just realized my two bottle cages weigh 166 grams...and Zipp makes a carbon cage that is a claimed 19 grams! EEEK, that's about a 1/4 of a pound savings in just 2 bottle cages. Granted, they are $50 each, but just the same.

My question, has anyone used one? Zipp is not an off-road kind of company, so would these hold up for typical XC race use?

I bought a couple of Tacx Tao cages for my WW race bike. I've never lost a bottle. IIRC, $35g and $13 each. Bonus points for using alu bolts to hold them in place. I found they don't work really well on tight frames, like my stumpjumper FSR-XC.

I have Performance Bike Stainless Steel cages on all my other bikes, and they do an okay job. The top of the downtube has been solid, but my stumpy has a mount behind the seat tube and on the under side of the seat tube. I use a velcro strap to secure bottles in those spots. The PSS cage is 46g, IIRC and cheap.

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=14681&subcategory_ID=4342#

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elephant

· #9 · Jun 28, 2006

I like the Dura Cage; it is light and cheap.

Some Guy

· #10 · Jun 28, 2006

I only use Cateye BC-100 cages. Don't look the best, but super light (27gr IIRC), durable, and won't ever drop you're bottle. Oh, and super cheap

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40hills

· #11 · Jul 20, 2006

I ended up getting the Profile Designs Stryke = 36g

Megaclocker said:
I use a Good old cheap plastic one, listed a 40g for 6$ at my LBS

They work well and they are cheap

http://www.profile-design.com/2006_product_pages/hydration/stryke.html :thumbsup:

With 2 of these you will save 80g for 12$

After being one of the ignorants who bought the Tacx Tao (41g actual) without knowing about the special bottle size, I'm sending it back. It's a very nice looking cage that adds to the bling of my bike, but I have a half-dozen bottles that won't fit it and I'll be damned if I'm going to buy special bottles for it... especially a ghay "team" roadie bottle with euro company logos on it (http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.asp?PART_NUM_SUB='3297-00'). What dorks designed a cage requiring a special bottle? If I'm wrong here it just confirms my ignorance.

Thanks to this thread here I had an idea of what to replace it with. I just got back from REI (all the LBS's are closed after 6pm) and found a couple of good choices there. They had the Blackburn Chicane (41g claimed @$15) and the Profile Designs Stryke (36g actual at $5) and some others that were the typical 65g+. While I liked the looks of the Blackburn much better, the cheap Stryke held bottles more securely in my opinion as I tried several of them in the store. The Blackburn had a vague grip in comparison to the "snap" of the Stryke.

Thanks for the tips on these cages!

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eurorider

· #12 · Jul 20, 2006

Yea, I use the Cateye BC-100 cages as well. They are quite ugly but a very good value ...dirt cheap! They hold bottles very securely but are more like 35 g each without bolts. You do have to be careful not to tighten the bolts too much though as the heads will go right through the plastic.

I'll have some Ravx Beta X cages soon. They're several times more expensive but claimed at 16 g each and look much better. We'll see if they drop bottles.

HOser

· #13 · Jul 20, 2006

For you guys who use and like the Minoura Dura cages, are you using the lighter "road" cages with 4.5 mm tubing? How do they hold up? Or are you using the heavier MTB Dura cages?

Captain

· #14 · Aug 4, 2006

I have a bunch of CAT EYE BC-100 cages and weighed them all on some industrial scales. They range between 36 and 40 grams. I bought a carbon cage that weighs 30grams but it fits better in my dual suspension frame and is easier to grab and replace bottle on the fly. I race XC and have never lost the bottle.

DeeEight

· #15 · Aug 4, 2006

Pedro's milk cages... as long as you don't make the mistake of overtightening the cage bolts (which tends to then stress the plastic cage and leads to cracks and failure) they hold well and are light (28 grams) and often cheap. I scored a dozen on clearout for 99 cents each at a local outfitters shop.

ryan123

· #16 · Aug 4, 2006

Specialized rib cage pro. Look good and around 37g... Cheap too, never lost a bottle. They look better that the standard plastic cateye and king ti (in my opinion) Only around AU$18!! Oh yeah, forgot to mention.. it is the ONLY Specialized item on my bike!

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