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For those of you that ride out at Holy Jim Canyon, Trabucco Canyon or the surrounding areas be aware of car breakins. This past Sunday, Aug. 22, myself and the Owner of Switchback Cyclery parked at the dirt lot just off the pavement at Live Oak Road. We rode our bikes up Trabucco Creek road to Holy Jim, accross the Main Divide and down Truabucco Trail.

Upon retuning to our vehicles, we learned that Switchback Cyclery Van had passenger door and driver door windows smashed. The owners purse was stolen. Apprently a rock was thrown from the passenger side through both windows and struck the fender on my truck. My vehicle was not broken into.

After talking with the Sherrif's deputy who took the report, this is a very common occurance in this area as well as the parking area at the bottom of Holy Jim Trail head.

If you choose to ride this canyon, I strongly urge you to pay the extra couple of $$$'s and park at O'Niel Park and ride from there.

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Damn J, that sucks. I can't believe I hadn't heard abot that yet!

I'll stick with parking at cooks or oneill from now on!

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There are a lot of illegals that camp out there and then come down during the day to work. I occasionally see them walking down from the hills. There are a few mean lookin one's. I had often thought that might happen to me sooner or later.

Sam

dirtpaws said:
Thanks for the warning.

Maybe it's the ghost of Holy Jim.
 

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There are a lot of illegals that camp out there and then come down during the day to work. I occasionally see them walking down from the hills. There are a few mean lookin one's. I had often thought that might happen to me sooner or later.

Sam
Yeah, once I saw their van, I thought for sure mine truck was going to be in the same condition. However, looks like I got lucky.

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With all that good single track up there

mtnbikej said:
For those of you that ride out at Holy Jim Canyon, Trabucco Canyon or the surrounding areas be aware of car breakins. This past Sunday, Aug. 22, myself and the Owner of Switchback Cyclery parked at the dirt lot just off the pavement at Live Oak Road. We rode our bikes up Trabucco Creek road to Holy Jim, accross the Main Divide and down Truabucco Trail.

Upon retuning to our vehicles, we learned that Switchback Cyclery Van had passenger door and driver door windows smashed. The owners purse was stolen. Apprently a rock was thrown from the passenger side through both windows and struck the fender on my truck. My vehicle was not broken into.

After talking with the Sherrif's deputy who took the report, this is a very common occurance in this area as well as the parking area at the bottom of Holy Jim Trail head.

If you choose to ride this canyon, I strongly urge you to pay the extra couple of $$$'s and park at O'Niel Park and ride from there.

mtnbikej
I hate to burn all those extra calories on that long boring fire road coming up from O'Neil, maybe I will lower my comprehensive deductable instead.
 

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well I've only biked Holy Jims once but I have played out there countless times in my Jeep. That break in thing is sad in an area like that.Thankfully I get the luxury of parking at different friends houses right near by, one in Holy Jims, so I don't worry bout the breakins.
 

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samanderson4 said:
There are a lot of illegals that camp out there and then come down during the day to work. I occasionally see them walking down from the hills. There are a few mean lookin one's. I had often thought that might happen to me sooner or later.

Sam
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you're an ideot. "illegals" I am assuming you mean Mexicans? (shaking my head in dissapointment). Am I correct in assuming you are white? Probably live in a nice condo in OC, drive a small import sports car, "upper-middle class"? Once again you prove "white" mans FEAR of the unknown.
"There are a few mean lookin one's." thats funny (not). According to that, I must be capable of dozens of violent crimes. Remember your post in my lost dog thread? you came off like you where tuff...remember?quote"When I ride past them on the downhill and they have bent over to pick up their dogs crap, I occasionally startle them. They, more often than not, start *****in and complaining to me. I will normally ride away, but occasionally, if they don't shut the F up, I will get off my bike and start walking towards them. They more often than not stop talking at that point and start walking."quote Ya... sure. I bet if it was one of those mean looking "illegals" you would be riding off scared like a sissy. Something tells me you start feeling a little insecure about your penis around minorities. I sure would like to see the look on your face when you see me at the trail. I am mexican and mean. I think I know how to tell that its you...I just look for a scared looking "white guy" with a red neck who is rude to pedestrians on the downhill. Fool.
I apologize to the rest of the community for my rant. I assure you all that I have no ill feelings towards people who fit some of the descriptions i mentioned....I am halfway joking with stereotypes. but I just feel sometimes that guys like this ruin relations between people and mtbers on the trails. I can't stand it when people will scapegoat a certain group of people for bad things. I feel for the guys at switchback...I understand they are going through some tough times right now and this incident doesn't help. I have been through there a few times and they are good people. Shari went the extra mile for me a couple of times.
mtnbikej, thanks for the heads up. I have had some velcro ties stolen off my bike rack up there...It must have been those " illegals" they probably needed the velcro straps to hold there drugs :rolleyes: I doubt it was another mtber, why would they need velcro straps that belong on a BIKE RACK?!

can't we all just get along? :rolleyes:
 

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There you go crying again. I must have hit a soft spot with you. Do you think, as you put it, " White Man" is holdin you down? And I did mean illegals from Mexico, because, Guess what, most of the illegals are from Mexico, if you haven't already noticed. If you have ever ridden that trail, from you post you obviously haven't, you might have seen the hundred or so people walking down the hill to work and a few do look pretty mean. So, unless you have something inteligent to say, please quit your rambling, nobody cares about your sensitive issues. Go to Dr. Phil if you want to cry.

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you're an ideot. "illegals" I am assuming you mean Mexicans? (shaking my head in dissapointment). Am I correct in assuming you are white? Probably live in a nice condo in OC, drive a small import sports car, "upper-middle class"? Once again you prove "white" mans FEAR of the unknown.
"There are a few mean lookin one's." thats funny (not). According to that, I must be capable of dozens of violent crimes. Remember your post in my lost dog thread? you came off like you where tuff...remember?quote"When I ride past them on the downhill and they have bent over to pick up their dogs crap, I occasionally startle them. They, more often than not, start *****in and complaining to me. I will normally ride away, but occasionally, if they don't shut the F up, I will get off my bike and start walking towards them. They more often than not stop talking at that point and start walking."quote Ya... sure. I bet if it was one of those mean looking "illegals" you would be riding off scared like a sissy. Something tells me you start feeling a little insecure about your penis around minorities. I sure would like to see the look on your face when you see me at the trail. I am mexican and mean. I think I know how to tell that its you...I just look for a scared looking "white guy" with a red neck who is rude to pedestrians on the downhill. Fool.
I apologize to the rest of the community for my rant. I assure you all that I have no ill feelings towards people who fit some of the descriptions i mentioned....I am halfway joking with stereotypes. but I just feel sometimes that guys like this ruin relations between people and mtbers on the trails. I can't stand it when people will scapegoat a certain group of people for bad things. I feel for the guys at switchback...I understand they are going through some tough times right now and this incident doesn't help. I have been through there a few times and they are good people. Shari went the extra mile for me a couple of times.
mtnbikej, thanks for the heads up. I have had some velcro ties stolen off my bike rack up there...It must have been those " illegals" they probably needed the velcro straps to hold there drugs :rolleyes: I doubt it was another mtber, why would they need velcro straps that belong on a BIKE RACK?!

can't we all just get along? :rolleyes:
 

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Step away from the pipe

Smokey - We live in a society of rules/laws. Maybe it's not PC to call transients or whatever your favorite euphemism for "illegals" is, but the fact is, there are people living in this country illegally". No one should be ashamed to call them what they are. Whether they are Mexican or Chinese or whatever, it does not matter.

Sorry if my ****** attitude offends you.

BTW, My wife is Mexican and she agrees.

Take another hit and relax.
 

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dude,
I guess no one is going to understand the main point that I was trying to make. the point was that ignorance and fear will influence us to point the finger without solid evidence. Second, I don't like samanderson4. I think he's a gutless moron who only gets brave online. Third, I am not arguing whether or not anyones illegal or should be called illegal, I was just "calling out" some fools fear in man and how it has shaped his perception in this world. Even as I write this, I am confronted by the idea that most people are living there lives in ignorance and that ignorance is allowing them to NOT see their wrongs. sort of like blinders on a horse. they have those so they won't see things to their sides that might scare them. you know that saying "ignorance is bliss" I think too many people live there lives by that. anyways, there is also a saying "choose your battles wisely".... I don't think anyone will get this so I am going to drop it.
take another hit and relax .....sounds like a plan!
 

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mtnbikej said:
For those of you that ride out at Holy Jim Canyon, Trabucco Canyon or the surrounding areas be aware of car breakins. This past Sunday, Aug. 22, myself and the Owner of Switchback Cyclery parked at the dirt lot just off the pavement at Live Oak Road. We rode our bikes up Trabucco Creek road to Holy Jim, accross the Main Divide and down Truabucco Trail.

Upon retuning to our vehicles, we learned that Switchback Cyclery Van had passenger door and driver door windows smashed. The owners purse was stolen. Apprently a rock was thrown from the passenger side through both windows and struck the fender on my truck. My vehicle was not broken into.

After talking with the Sherrif's deputy who took the report, this is a very common occurance in this area as well as the parking area at the bottom of Holy Jim Trail head.

If you choose to ride this canyon, I strongly urge you to pay the extra couple of $$$'s and park at O'Niel Park and ride from there.

mtnbikej
j whats up this is dan from prescott az sorry to here about that that really sucks thats s.c. forya keep in touch i check the board alot tell the tuesday night group miss them all dan
 

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Dude, I sense a little American History X

SMOKEY said:
dude,
I guess no one is going to understand the main point that I was trying to make. the point was that ignorance and fear will influence us to point the finger without solid evidence. Second, I don't like samanderson4. I think he's a gutless moron who only gets brave online. Third, I am not arguing whether or not anyones illegal or should be called illegal, I was just "calling out" some fools fear in man and how it has shaped his perception in this world. Even as I write this, I am confronted by the idea that most people are living there lives in ignorance and that ignorance is allowing them to NOT see their wrongs. sort of like blinders on a horse. they have those so they won't see things to their sides that might scare them. you know that saying "ignorance is bliss" I think too many people live there lives by that. anyways, there is also a saying "choose your battles wisely".... I don't think anyone will get this so I am going to drop it.
take another hit and relax .....sounds like a plan!
in your essay, and that's not a bad thing.
 

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I'm the mean looking Mexican!!!

I'm mexican and I look mean(especially after a long ride) so please don't blame me for that break-in!

To Smokey's point, I think he just means don't judge the book by the cover. Even though these workers look mean, they are most likely hard working fellas working for dirt pay so that we(all who benefit from their labor) can have cheap fast food, dry cleaning, car washes, clothing, produce, construction, etc.. These guys don't want any trouble with the law and they certainly don't want to be deported. Despite my viewpoint, if I heard that a liquor store was robbed at gunpoint in Compton, I would think that it was owned by a Korean and robbed by an African American. Man I suck!

We're all prejudiced one one way or the other. Oh well, time to ride!

Later! :)
 

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Hey,

I don't really give a F$ck what color or race any of you are. This age of being "political correct" is getting out of hand. If you mention that you have seen a Mexican on the trail every body [email protected] their pants. Did I say that person did it? NO. Did I say he knew who did it? NO. Did I even say the a person, darker than white but lighter than black, did it? NO. So shut up and relax.
 

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Ten bucks says it was some kids from the burbs trying to get some Mary Jane Money that broke into the cars. Believe, highly probable because I grew around idiots like that.
 

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j whats up this is dan from prescott az sorry to here about that that really sucks thats s.c. forya keep in touch i check the board alot tell the tuesday night group miss them all dan
Was wondering where you heard about this. I was at the shop today when you called.

Good to hear from ya.

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whoa

Moo Shoo Pork said:
Ten bucks says it was some kids from the burbs trying to get some Mary Jane Money that broke into the cars. Believe, highly probable because I grew around idiots like that.
LOL, :D
true dat.
 
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