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I just built my 20" Zaka last week. So far I love it! My riding now is tight semi technical Midwestern US terrain where I think the bike shines. I lived in CO for 12 years previously and enjoyed bikes like the GF Rig that were a little less agile in favor of a stable high speed bike. The Zaka has a shorter cockpit is considersbly more nimble. It's my first Ti bike so I don't have another Ti comparison. I'll post some pics when I find my USB cable.
 

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"brill" is short for brilliant - which is a fitting description for that ride! We tried to order one but have been told that the next batch of frames will be ready by June.

Seems like demand is a lot greater than supply! (at least, at the moment)

Sweetglisse - what size frame is that? 19?
 

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Agu,

Thanks for the kudos! My frame is a 20". It's been a long time coming and I simply can't say enough positive things about the ride. The frame is awesome! The Contis are incredible! So confidence inspiring. I just got back from riding it. Big grins abound!
 

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Nice looking bike, what sort of price are they asking for it?

Sweetglisse...... I'm going to guess you're what 6'2" and pushing the limits of the cockpit with a 120/0 Thomson stem and in need of a setback post.Might I suggest a setback post so as to centre your saddle rails in the clamps, this might extend the life of that saddle in avoid a bad injury ;)
 

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LyNx,

The frame retails for $1200. I am 5"11 but have the inseam length of the typical 6'2" male so I always need to buy the XL frames. As for the cockpit, I can move the saddle forward just a bit as I am slightly behind the plumline. The stem is actually a 110mm. But maybe I'll buy the Erickson setback ;)
 

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seat_boy said:
Seems ironic it's subtitled "earth guardian" when titanium is probably the most environmentally unfriendly way to make a bike frame. Still looks like a nice bike, though.
Ha, that is pretty ironic. That makes me think - I really like Ti parts, but more and more often, I find myself looking for more parts made from lightweight, good quality steel.
 

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And yet you still use a 110mm stem :eekster: Are your arms proportionally as long as your inseam? Seems you're more of a "knuckle dragger" than even I am ;) I think the setback post would be a good idea. As for the whole plumline thing, even when I'm riding "forward" I'm still a cm or more behind the plum to my knee.
That's a decent price for a Ti frame, all be it stock/mass.
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LyNx,

The frame retails for $1200. I am 5"11 but have the inseam length of the typical 6'2" male so I always need to buy the XL frames. As for the cockpit, I can move the saddle forward just a bit as I am slightly behind the plumline. The stem is actually a 110mm. But maybe I'll buy the Erickson setback ;)
 

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Apologies..

up front for the thread hi-jack....

seat_boy said:
Seems ironic it's subtitled "earth guardian" when titanium is probably the most environmentally unfriendly way to make a bike frame. Still looks like a nice bike, though.
So what makes Ti any more or less friendly that steel, AL or carbon to build a bike out of?

sweat a$$ bike BTW....

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Mostly the environmental damage from mining and refining it, plus all the electricity it uses in the process. And it's not easily (if at all) recyclable.

Check out:

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/60.htm

and

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/61.htm

You can find information on aluminum and steel if you go back a page to here:

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/index.htm

Bridgestone catalogs were the best ever.

Eric

simplton said:
up front for the thread hi-jack....

So what makes Ti any more or less friendly that steel, AL or carbon to build a bike out of?

cheers,
simp
 

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seat_boy said:
Mostly the environmental damage from mining and refining it, plus all the electricity it uses in the process. And it's not easily (if at all) recyclable.

Check out:

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/60.htm

and

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/61.htm

You can find information on aluminum and steel if you go back a page to here:

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/index.htm

Bridgestone catalogs were the best ever.

Eric
An interesting read, but not sure how relavent it is. That catalog is 14 years old! I am sure the mining/refining processes are different now (although maybe not in China and Russia). Although it does say that titanium uses only 1/4 of the elictricity to make compared with aluminum. Here is how I see it: a Titanium frame never has to be painted and will last virtually forever. An aluminum frame must be painted, and then is usually discarded after a couple of years. Steel frames also require paint, usually every few years, and must be protected from rust. So which is more environmentally friendly, a Ti frame that takes more of a toll initially but then will last for 10 or 20 years, an aluminum frame with paint that ends up in a landfill after a couple of years, or a steel frame that has to be painted every couple of years, being shipped to a painter and back every time? I do not know the answer, but I am betting on the Ti frame!

Mark
 

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seat_boy said:
Mostly the environmental damage from mining and refining it, plus all the electricity it uses in the process. And it's not easily (if at all) recyclable.

Check out:

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/60.htm

and

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/pages/61.htm

You can find information on aluminum and steel if you go back a page to here:

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1994/index.htm

Bridgestone catalogs were the best ever.

Eric
Interesting stuff.... Single source though. And as it was brought up before, I'm sure things have changed a bit. Still, makes a person think.

cheers,
scott
 
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