[Scott_in_Jersey]

A cousin of mine in Houston bought this vintage Klein hardtail on eBay a few years back and never got to build it up because the the rear derailluer hanger threading looks stripped. The hanger hole is larger in diameter than the average Shimano 9 speed LX derialluer bolt. Basically he got a raw deal from the seller. Don't know the model of the frame but it looks like a bonded Attitude with a rear U brake & internal cable routing.

Can any help save this frame? Unfortunately it's not a bolt in hanger. Any info on heli-coil instalation or other ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[Shayne]

You Need Something Like This

http://www.bikeparts.com/search_results.asp?ID=WZ1071

A Lot of local shops will have something like this. Just a nut/insert that goes in the stripped out hole.

 

[jasonwa2]

That's a late 80s "Mountain klein" i believe.
I wish i knew more to help you with your problem ....sorry..

 

[jasonwa2]

Yo Shayne! Whats up buddy? I noticed your positive klein comment the other day. That was cool.

Now i see you are lookin for MC2 road stems?

You got some lovin for a klein road bike now? Lets see it!! Whats that babys color?

Am i being to forward....Im sorry. I just get a lil excited sometimes.
That [email protected] carsten offered up is gonna have me amped for weeks.

 

[Guest]

That's a late 80s "Mountain klein" i believe.
I wish i knew more to help you with your problem ....sorry..

yup. a MountainKlein! hey, mines are not hte only Kleins in this city, that's cool to know

the threads seem to be gone completely so the thing Shayne has posted might be the best solution, if only the fix kit would not be worth more than the frame...
maybe you can find a shop that can machine something like that for less, it is not a very complicated thing.

Carsten

 

[Shayne]

They're Cheap At A Shop

I think the inserts go for less than $10 at a shop. They should be able to order them individually if they are not in stock. I just threw that link up because it was the first pic I flond of what I was thinking of.
I used one a few years back that I got from a shop that is now out of business.

 

[cegrover]

Looks like one of those inserts would do it. I just saw an article on those, but don't remember where.

Just don't go 9-speed, of all things! I just changed my wife's RM ETSX to 8-speed from the original 9-speed. It's SOOOO much more reliable and takes less tuning (i.e. time away from riding).

Actually, your hub spacing may dictate the cog number (probably 7-speed?).

Post some pics when it's sorted out!

 

[laffeaux]

Looks like one of those inserts would do it.

I've used them before. I don't recommend them for use with a tensioner on a single speed conversion (they tend to slip), but for a geared bike they work just fine.

 

[Rumpfy]

ENO hub...single speed it. Won't need to use the hanger at all I don't think.

 

[rayray]

yup. a MountainKlein! hey, mines are not hte only Kleins in this city, that's cool to know

the threads seem to be gone completely so the thing Shayne has posted might be the best solution, if only the fix kit would not be worth more than the frame...
maybe you can find a shop that can machine something like that for less, it is not a very complicated thing.

Carsten

Did someone say "Mountain Klein"? My first "nice" bike was a Klein. It was a toss-up between a Mountain and the just-released Pinnacle. I picked the Pinnacle because it felt more agile. Didn't regret the decision, but soon after yearned for a Mountain as well. I picked this up a bit ago. It's clean, but I do ride it, Rumpfy! To the store/cafe and back, mostly.

 

[stout75]

Thanks for the advice! I went to a LBS and had them order me a derailleur hanger. It's supposed to be in today. I'm looking forward to finally finishing this bike after having all of the parts sitting in my garage for a few years.

 

[Shayne]

Excellent

Glad I could offer some assistance.

Post some pics here when you get it all back together.

 

[stout75]

Glad I could offer some assistance.

Post some pics here when you get it all back together.

The pictures are pretty large since I didn't resize them so I will just post links.

Me and the Klein before the ride last night:
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250132b.JPG

The Klein by itself:
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250133.JPG

The derailleur issue:
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250134.JPG

The new issue - because of the front derailleur and the crank I can only use the 2 lower gears. Does anyone know where to find an older crank that has is more recessed so that it will fit closer to the frame?
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250135.JPG

Thanks for all of the help!

p.s. running cables through the tube isn't fun!

 

[Guest]

The new issue - because of the front derailleur and the crank I can only use the 2 lower gears. Does anyone know where to find an older crank that has is more recessed so that it will fit closer to the frame?
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250135.JPG

the bb spindle is way too long for these newer cranks. either have a shorter spindle installed or take old cranks like the Shimano XT M730 (need a 122mm spindle). plenty of them on ebay and elsewhere.

Carsten

 

[hollister]

the new issue - because of the front derailleur and the crank I can only use the 2 lower gears. Does anyone know where to find an older crank that has is more recessed so that it will fit closer to the frame?
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250135.JPG

Thanks for all of the help!

p.s. running cables through the tube isn't fun![/QUOTE]
call phil wood and get a shorter spindle,take it to a shop with the right tools and ride off into the sunset.

 

[Scott_in_Jersey]

NJ reply

Steve - You look like a thug, nice ride though. What's with the goat? You probably neeed a 107mm or 113mm spindle with newer cranks. Let me know if you need any parts. Also, a nashbar big tool kit would have most if not all the tools needed for around $39 if you want to DIY. Later cous.

The pictures are pretty large since I didn't resize them so I will just post links.

Me and the Klein before the ride last night:
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250132b.JPG

The Klein by itself:
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250133.JPG

The derailleur issue:
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250134.JPG

The new issue - because of the front derailleur and the crank I can only use the 2 lower gears. Does anyone know where to find an older crank that has is more recessed so that it will fit closer to the frame?
https://s95392880.onlinehome.us/html/images/bike/2006_01250135.JPG

Thanks for all of the help!

p.s. running cables through the tube isn't fun!

 

[stout75]

Steve - You look like a thug, nice ride though. What's with the goat? You probably neeed a 107mm or 113mm spindle with newer cranks. Let me know if you need any parts. Also, a nashbar big tool kit would have most if not all the tools needed for around $39 if you want to DIY. Later cous.

Yep, I'm a thug! Gotta liven up suburbia. I've pretty much always had the goat though (offsets the bald head!). I'm still searching for the cranks along with my fruitless search for some elastomers or speed springs for the Indy XC on the other bike. Pretty much what i need to do is go on a road trip to the few good LBS in Houston and just bring the Klein along to see if I can find one that looks like it will fit.