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Now I know why my low end wheelset on my Rush 800 and T800 (touring bike) have held up so well. They take a beating under a 200lb rider and gear (up to 50lbs on my T800) and they hold up under considerable use with almost no maintenance.

This is in sharp contrast to the two Specialized bikes I've owned. I was lucky to get 1500mi out of my wheelset on my Sirrus with the LBS working on the wheels every 100-200mi. My Sequoia, a light touring bike, was always out of true and breaking spokes. Honestly, the bikes were nice, but the quality of the wheels soured the whole experience.

Never underestimate the value of a good build. Parts is parts, but they don't all come together in the same fashion. Nice job, Cannondale!
 

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8664 said:
@anders
and when you not see in the video how they built the judge? than this is not made in PA, or what?
Well I know a guy in the bike business that was on a round trip in asia and he said the he saw a lot of Lefty forks in a factory. Take it the way you like.
 

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Anders said:
Well I know a guy in the bike business that was on a round trip in asia and he said the he saw a lot of Lefty forks in a factory. Take it the way you like.
maybe they hafe some lefty for make asia copy's...
:D :D :D :D :D

i think cannondale make not all in usa but i am sure that where they put a usa made sticker on this piece "frame" this is made in PA USA !! any other ideas?
 

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MrHappyMedium said:
Now I know why my low end wheelset on my Rush 800 and T800 (touring bike) have held up so well. They take a beating under a 200lb rider and gear (up to 50lbs on my T800) and they hold up under considerable use with almost no maintenance.

This is in sharp contrast to the two Specialized bikes I've owned. I was lucky to get 1500mi out of my wheelset on my Sirrus with the LBS working on the wheels every 100-200mi. My Sequoia, a light touring bike, was always out of true and breaking spokes. Honestly, the bikes were nice, but the quality of the wheels soured the whole experience.

Never underestimate the value of a good build. Parts is parts, but they don't all come together in the same fashion. Nice job, Cannondale!
Don't be too awed by that wheel building process. A machine-built wheel is a machine built wheel, and the process shown in the Cannondale video doesn't look remarkably different than this one on YouTube from a factory in China:



If your Specialized wheels couldn't stand up to the job, especially after bike shop intervention, then blame it on crappy components or a poor job of equalizing tension by your mechanic. Any machine-built wheel that is lovingly trued & tensioned by hand can be as good as any wheel hand-built from the get-go.
 

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Don't be too awed by that wheel building process. A machine-built wheel is a machine built wheel, and the process shown in the Cannondale video doesn't look remarkably different than this one on YouTube from a factory in China:



If your Specialized wheels couldn't stand up to the job, especially after bike shop intervention, then blame it on crappy components or a poor job of equalizing tension by your mechanic. Any machine-built wheel that is lovingly trued & tensioned by hand can be as good as any wheel hand-built from the get-go.
the welder machines looks same to in asia.... and the frame tubes looks same to in asia.... and the cnc machines etc.....
 

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the welder machines looks same to in asia.... and the frame tubes looks same to in asia.... and the cnc machines etc.....
Well, fact of the matter is, "Made in the USA" has a certain cache to it, but you certainly can't argue that the bikes coming out of Taiwan or China are automatically junk -- it largely depends on what it put into them: design, materials, craftsmanship. The US certainly has no monopoly there.

And actually, two of the largest mass-produced brands with domestic production receive pretty regular knocks from many riders -- Fisher aka Scary Fissure and Cannondale aka Crack 'n Fail.

I didn't post either of the vids to pass judgement. Quality in equals quality out. Doesn't matter much what side of an ocean it was made.
 

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Well, fact of the matter is, "Made in the USA" has a certain cache to it, but you certainly can't argue that the bikes coming out of Taiwan or China are automatically junk -- it largely depends on what it put into them: design, materials, craftsmanship. The US certainly has no monopoly there.

And actually, two of the largest mass-produced brands with domestic production receive pretty regular knocks from many riders -- Fisher aka Scary Fissure and Cannondale aka Crack 'n Fail.

I didn't post either of the vids to pass judgement. Quality in equals quality out. Doesn't matter much what side of an ocean it was made.
YES !!!

i like my boxxer wc, sram stuff, maxxis tyres and my judge frame....
 
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