Vassago Jabberwocky Fit Question

The biggest difference might be in the STA. The 16 inch might work for you, but I got rid of mine because I could get my saddle back far enough (which I like with my short legs so I can balance my longer torso).

Maybe you need a little longer stem (try a 110?)? Looking at those bars (Salsa 17*?), you might benefit from a touch longer stem.

I would suggest more setback to your saddle or post, but I assume you are probably already sitting where you'd like.

Wish I Were Riding said:

The biggest difference might be in the STA. The 16 inch might work for you, but I got rid of mine because I could get my saddle back far enough (which I like with my short legs so I can balance my longer torso).

Maybe you need a little longer stem (try a 110?)? Looking at those bars (Salsa 17*?), you might benefit from a touch longer stem.

I would suggest more setback to your saddle or post, but I assume you are probably already sitting where you'd like.

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So you would have gone with the 18" frame instead? I'll have bontrager flat bars with only a 7* sweep. I just don't know if I'd be pushing it with lots of seatpost with the 16" whereas, I could just get a shorter stem with an 18"?

thomaskrap said:

So you would have gone with the 18" frame instead? I'll have bontrager flat bars with only a 7* sweep. I just don't know if I'd be pushing it with lots of seatpost with the 16" whereas, I could just get a shorter stem with an 18"?

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Sorry, I think I confused you... or me.

The 18" Vassago would have been too big for me I think.

Is it helps, my friend who is 5'11" with a 32" inseam rode my 16" Vassago with a lot of post showing and a 110mm Thomson stem for over a year. I always though it was a little to small for him. So I guess that means it will either be a little small for you, or just right. And getting an 18" Vassago might feel a little big.

I was just thinking it would be nice to keep the Haro, save money, and just make it fit with some other adjustments.

Does that clear up my post?

Wish I Were Riding said:

Does that clear up my post?

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I guess not. I should have said I'm 5'9" with a 30" inseam. The 16" Vassago was great, ACCEPT for the 74* STA, which is why I sold it.

I am 5'8" and ride a 16" Vassago with a short 60mm stem. Like you I suffer from short inseam as it is about 29 - 30". Honestly I think you could go either way! Do you prefer a little bigger or shorter bike? In most bike I ride a 17".

As suggested you could always get a post with some setback like a Titec Pluto (cheap) and I don't think the the 16" would be a problem then. Longer stem & setback seatpost would be a good fit.

Even a layback seatpost if need be.

The welds aren't the nicest but I love the way the bike handles ala the "Wet Cat" geometry.

I am 5'9.5" 31" inseem and had an 18 Jabber. I say go 16. The 18" has a 24.2" ETT vs 16 23.6 ETT. I had a 90 stem and a straight post on the 18. It was ok until I put wide ss friendly bars which stretched the cockpit out too much.

Thanks for the response guys. It really helped me out. Now one more question, would my salsa cromoto grande fork with a rake of 43mm really mess things up?

5'9" with 30" inseam and I fit the 18 well, it took some getting used to, but the more I rode the better I liked it.

thomaskrap said:

Thanks for the response guys. It really helped me out. Now one more question, would my salsa cromoto grande fork with a rake of 43mm really mess things up?

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Shouldn't, I ran a 07 Reba with a 38mm offset and the bike handled great.

Traded my Jabber a while back, wish I hadn't

I am 5'9 1/2" and I got an 18 with a 90mm stem and Sentace Vector bars. Fits great.

what is your inseam?

32 ... I think.

thomaskrap said:

what is your inseam?

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I was going to ask him that. I'm guessing he has more leg than torso. Knowing inseam and height really helps you understand who you are similar to, so you can better analize setup configs.

thomaskrap said:

Now one more question, would my salsa cromoto grande fork with a rake of 43mm really mess things up?

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I don't think so. If its 468mm A-2-C it should be fine. The Vassago fork is also very nice though.

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32 ... I think.

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That's what I suspected. You are only 1/2" taller than me, but your inseam is 2" greater. No wonder the 18" fits you. It wouldn't be right for me.

Thanks for adding to this thread, I think its helping out a lot to know these details. At least I feel like I am confirming my own theories!

after looking at gjenkins jabber and how much seatpost is showing. I think the 18 would fit better with a shorter stem.

gjenkins: so you don't really feel stretched out?