Bikinfoolferlife said:version? I've got both, but on the newer (02) Heckler I went with a 5th coil and Marzocchi Z1FR with 20mm axle. However, if I were getting a fork right now I'd think hard about the Maverick DUC32 (and probably stick with the 5th coil, but if the air is more reliable these days maybe that could be interesting).
I have other Marzocchis and wanted 20mm so didn't consider the Vanilla long. How do you have yours set up now? I think of mine as aggressive XC now...
A fellow mechanic at the shop had the Fox RLC 5" on his Heckler with a 5th. He felt it was a little too steep a head angle combination for his liking. The Fox has a slightly shorter crown to axle distance and a -1 degree steering angle than most other 5" forks. He replaced it with a Firefly which made the bike a little more stable in rough terrain and drops. He liked the Fox's damping characteristics, but it was a little too XC in its geometry for his liking.rjheckler said:Looking to change set up on heckler from agressive xc to an all mountain thrasher with 5" of travel.
What would you recommend on the front end and the rear? considering a Fox vanilla&5th element coil. any input or advice would rock.
One degree does make a difference - probably translates to about 1" difference in fork heights. The Fox has a 495mm a-c height vs. say a Z1 @ 518mm. A shorter stem on a bike w/ a steep head angle will only cause the steering to become more sensetive.Gman086 said:I've never heard that one before, not that it can't be true. But it certainly comes down to personal preference. Going to a shorty riser stem will do a LOT more for stability than worrying about a possible 1 deg steeper head angle. Then again, I PREFER a steeper angle for quicker response. I even drop the stanchions in the crowns of my 8" Stratos all the way to achieve the steepest angle possible with my already slack Intense M1. A Stratos engineer turned me on to that trick and said a lot of top freeriders do it. I guess it's what your most comfortable with. I'd go slack on something like the course at Big Bear where tight turns aren't a problem but no way do I go real slack on the expert course at Mt. Hood because that has some tight stuff.
Anyone else have a problem riding Fox forks??? I'll take the better damping over a slightly steeper head angle ANY DAY!!!keen said:One degree does make a difference - probably translates to about 1" difference in fork heights. The Fox has a 495mm a-c height vs. say a Z1 @ 518mm. A shorter stem on a bike w/ a steep head angle will only cause the steering to become more sensetive.
The steeper head angle deal was only mentioned as one of the elements on some of the Fox forks. Steeper head angle is not always a negative. It depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your bike's geometry. For those wanting a slightly slacker head angle, they don't have to sacrifice good damping with some of the other quality forks. The right tool for the job is the only issue.Gman086 said:Anyone else have a problem riding Fox forks??? I'll take the better damping over a slightly steeper head angle ANY DAY!!!