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I just spoke with the SRAM tech support and asked them about using the XX remote on my Sektor and they said it would work fine since the Sektor is similiar to the Revelation. Wondering if anyone has attempted this? I have the Solo Air Sektor RL...
 

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You may want to change out the rebound guts too if you want to get the full effect of the blackbox dampening.

The solo air sektor with the black box damper would be high on my want list.
 

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Well, it is basically the entire XX Damper kit that would just slide in there. I've never cracked open a fork before...what rebound guts would I swap in?
 

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Got a link to the XX stuff you are looking at? It is likely just the XX Motion Control damper spring tube assembly, which would go in place of your current moco damper(top right leg). The rebound damper and moco damper are separate from each other, therefore you may want to upgrade to the Blackbox rebound damper as well - shouldn't be a necessity though.
 

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Got a link to the XX stuff you are looking at? It is likely just the XX Motion Control damper spring tube assembly, which would go in place of your current moco damper(top right leg). The rebound damper and moco damper are separate from each other, therefore you may want to upgrade to the Blackbox rebound damper as well - shouldn't be a necessity though.
Yes not nessary, but it will help the performance. The black box dampers use dual flow compression and rebound.

http://www.sram.com/rockshox/technologies/195
http://www.sram.com/rockshox/technologies/27
 

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I was told it couldnt be done,due to the Negative spring being in the way of the damper.
The Negative spring in a Coil Sektor is in the damping leg.
 

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Seconded on the coil Sektor thing. I wanted to transplant the rebound damper from a Revelation into a 150mm Coil U-Turn Sektor, but as above, the negative spring on the coil Sektor is part of the rebound damper and in the righthand fork leg, so the Dual Flow rebound gubbins won't work, or if it does, you'll not have a negative spring and presumably small-bump response would be borked as a result. Not a problem with the Solo Air versions, which I suspect will be a straightforward swap. I'm waiting for Push to bring out an upgrade for the Sektor, though it's a nice fork anyway, particularly at the price.
 

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ncfisherman said:
Got a link to the XX stuff you are looking at? It is likely just the XX Motion Control damper spring tube assembly, which would go in place of your current moco damper(top right leg). The rebound damper and moco damper are separate from each other, therefore you may want to upgrade to the Blackbox rebound damper as well - shouldn't be a necessity though.
The only part number I have is actually from Quality since I work for a dealer. Just a quick search I believe the Reba/Revelation kit is what I'm after. I'm not at the shop so I compare any of the part #'s.

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=38071

Reason I want this is because now that I live in Georgia the trails near me are really "punchy" climbs and would love to have a remote and better yet...this remote. I'll have to look and see what part # I'm looking for for the rebound damper. Sh*t is expensive, even at my cost!
 

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cyrjm said:
The only part number I have is actually from Quality since I work for a dealer. Just a quick search I believe the Reba/Revelation kit is what I'm after. I'm not at the shop so I compare any of the part #'s.

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=38071

Reason I want this is because now that I live in Georgia the trails near me are really "punchy" climbs and would love to have a remote and better yet...this remote. I'll have to look and see what part # I'm looking for for the rebound damper.
Looks like there is only one way to tell. Pull apart the damper side of your Sektor and see whats in there. I have no personal experience with that fork and have mainly worked on RS dual airs.

Here is the exploded view of the Sektor line: http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/2011%20RockShox%20SPC_Rev%20B.pdf - It shows two different rebound dampers between the 2 fork uppers(pg 24). If you have the rebound damper on the left, the Xloc moco would work. I'm unsure if it would work with the rebound damper shown on the right. Of course, you could get the Xloc moco and blackbox rebound damper, and that should work fine.

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Sh*t is expensive, even at my cost!
I hear ya there. What really sucks(for local shops), is that you can find a lot of stuff less than wholesale these days, with the online behemoths.
 

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Well, when the tech rep at SRAM gasps at the price over the phone you know it's expensive. He looked up the part # for me at Quality while we were on the phone and nearly pooped himself.
 

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cyrjm said:
Well, when the tech rep at SRAM gasps at the price over the phone you know it's expensive. He looked up the part # for me at Quality while we were on the phone and nearly pooped himself.
hahahaha
 

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Sorry to drag up an old thread, but did you ever do this upgrade to your Sektor, cyrjm? Did you change out your rebound damper to the Black Box version as well? I have the same fork as you and was curious about doing this upgrade myself, but I'd prefer using the BB MoCo with the crown adjust vs. the XX poploc version. I figure if the XX version fits, then the standard crown adjust BB version will fit too.
 

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Sorry to drag up an old thread, but did you ever do this upgrade to your Sektor, cyrjm? Did you change out your rebound damper to the Black Box version as well? I have the same fork as you and was curious about doing this upgrade myself, but I'd prefer using the BB MoCo with the crown adjust vs. the XX poploc version. I figure if the XX version fits, then the standard crown adjust BB version will fit too.
Haven't messed with it yet...I literally just finished my build two weeks ago and only have one ride on it. This is something I'm hoping to do by the fall. I'd honestly just call RockShox...those guys are super helpful.
 

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FYI, to do the rebound damper, you will have to pull the legs off the fork.

Compression damper is easy. Unscrew it. Dump the oil. Refill with the proper amount, install new compression damper. 20 mins. top.
 

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Seconded on the coil Sektor thing. I wanted to transplant the rebound damper from a Revelation into a 150mm Coil U-Turn Sektor, but as above, the negative spring on the coil Sektor is part of the rebound damper and in the righthand fork leg, so the Dual Flow rebound gubbins won't work, or if it does, you'll not have a negative spring and presumably small-bump response would be borked as a result. Not a problem with the Solo Air versions, which I suspect will be a straightforward swap. I'm waiting for Push to bring out an upgrade for the Sektor, though it's a nice fork anyway, particularly at the price.
the spring on the rebound assembly on the sektor, its either a negative or a top out spring, is a none issue. the whole thing will transplant to the bb rebound damper? ive done the mod, but have yet to test it.
 

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the spring on the rebound assembly on the sektor, its either a negative or a top out spring, is a none issue. the whole thing will transplant to the bb rebound damper? ive done the mod, but have yet to test it.
I will do the opposite. I'm done with the Dual P.O.S. Air and I have a Sektor 150 U-Turn Spring to go into my Revelation.

As Bing says, that little spring in the Sektor rebound assembly is more a top out bumper.

It looks like the Sektor spring is different from previous iterations of springs from RS. Former coil springs (Pike) were contained into the upper tubes with a bottom plate preventing over-extension of the fork.

The Sektor springs go all the way from cap to foot nut, with no baseplate to hold the assembly from overextending.

That's where the little spring on the rebound side comes into play. If it wouldn't be there, you'd get top out clunk and probably extending a little more than desirable (bushing issues??)

I don't think it's a negative spring.
 

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first test today with a sektor 150 u-turn and a bb rebound damper.

initially, i loose about 5mm of travel on extension. this can be seen on the marks on the stanchions. no big deal.

i was unable to get to the area with cantelope sized rock gadens. i had to make do with, rocky washboards.

result was nothing conclusive. the port orifice rebound damper worked well in this stuff, albeit at a much slower rebound setting. i tune my rebound progressively slower to smooth out successive hits (chatter). the bb rebound is able to smooth out chatter at a faster rebound setting. im thinking this is good.

i also observed that the port orifice rebound adjustments are more linear in slowing rebound. each click will show an effect on a push test.

the bb rebound has a more progressive effect with only the last 6 clicks showing any visual cue of slowing in a push test.

and yeah, i know push test tell you squat, so im just sayin.
 

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Swapping out sektor springs

I've got my revelation air u-turn converted over to DPC coil sektor and kept the BB MoCo and DF Rebound - great hybrid fork. The stock medium spring is a little too stiff for my liking / weight (only getting about 15-20% sag) How simple would it be to swap for a yellow (soft) spring - would I have to remove the lowers? Or can I simply take off the DPC cap / lever and unscrew the spring from the top (after removing the lower keeper nut at the bottom)? drop in the new spring and do everything back up? I do all my other bike maintenance but never played around with forks before. Any advice greatly appreciated. Cheers.
 

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I tested the Sektor with the bb rebound down the tech track thats been giving my fork trouble. The improvement is subtle. The fork is tracking as it would rough ST, but its actually going through baby heads. Its no longer packing up.

The rebound adjustment is much different. I am able to run the rebound a lot faster and still go through terrain fairly smoothly. Its not buttery smooth yet. I will try a few more tweaks with the rebound.
 
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