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US forest service official stance on e-bikes on trails

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See the attached files. E-bikes not allowed on any trails where motorized vehicles are excluded. E-bikes are considered motorized vehicles.

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Was this ever in question? Both the USFS and BLM have had that stance for a few years now.

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Just common sense.
Pedal-assist bikes such as the Levo, Haibike and others are not "self-propelled" and are outside of the definition of "motor vehicle" as set forth in the letter. Under the letter, e-bikes that are throttle operated or can otherwise be operated without pedal assist, fall within the definition. Pedal-assist bikes, which are not self-propelled, are not "ebikes" under the definition set forth in the statute.
Pedal-assist bikes such as the Levo, Haibike and others are not "self-propelled" and are outside of the definition of "motor vehicle" as set forth in the letter. Under the letter, e-bikes that are throttle operated or can otherwise be operated without pedal assist, fall within the definition. Pedal-assist bikes, which are not self-propelled, are not "ebikes" under the definition set forth in the statute.
Good luck with that in Federal Court, I'm sure the Judge will be thoroughly impressed with your knowledge of federal law.
Pedal-assist bikes such as the Levo, Haibike and others are not "self-propelled" and are outside of the definition of "motor vehicle" as set forth in the letter. Under the letter, e-bikes that are throttle operated or can otherwise be operated without pedal assist, fall within the definition. Pedal-assist bikes, which are not self-propelled, are not "ebikes" under the definition set forth in the statute.
Read it again. Actually, I don't think you've read it yet.
Pedal-assist bikes such as the Levo, Haibike and others are not "self-propelled" and are outside of the definition of "motor vehicle" as set forth in the letter. Under the letter, e-bikes that are throttle operated or can otherwise be operated without pedal assist, fall within the definition. Pedal-assist bikes, which are not self-propelled, are not "ebikes" under the definition set forth in the statute.
That's not how the statement reads. According to the USFS, if it has a battery, it's motorized (assuming the document is authentic).
Good luck with that in Federal Court, I'm sure the Judge will be thoroughly impressed with your knowledge of federal law.
I'm sure a judge would, given that I am a lawyer...
Good luck with that in Federal Court, I'm sure the Judge will be thoroughly impressed with your knowledge of federal law.
That's not how the statement reads. According to the USFS, if it has a battery, it's motorized (assuming the document is authentic).
Read the definition...no mention of battery in the definition of "motorized vehicle."
Read the definition...no mention of battery in the definition of "motorized vehicle."
Well, you can be the test monkey then since you're so sure.
I'm sure a judge would, given that I am a lawyer...
Well, you are certainly acting like one. There is a reason lawyers are some of the most disliked people, I believe even more than used car salesmen from what I've read. Don't you have an ambulance to chase?
Well, you can be the test monkey then since you're so sure.
I'd have no problem with that....
I'd have no problem with that.... I am that sure.
When can we expect to see you in the news?
Well, you are certainly acting like one. There is a reason lawyers are some of the most disliked people, I believe even more than used car salesmen from what I've read. Don't you have an ambulance to chase?
You mean "acting like one" because of my reading comprehension? Or by understanding what laws and regulations actually say? If that's what you mean by "acting like one", I'll take it.
When can we expect to see you in the news?
Well, heck... I was gonna take out my standard mtb for tonight's ride...But all this talk is making me want to take out the Levo instead! I'll think of ya'll while I'm riding!
And by the way.... to anyone reading this string... I'm not YOUR lawyer, and the aforementioned statements are not meant as legal advice. :)
Well, heck... I was gonna take out my standard mtb for tonight's ride...But all this talk is making me want to take out the Levo instead! I'll think of ya'll while I'm riding!
Wouldn't want to strain yourself. When are you going to be in the news in your civil disobedience experiment?
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