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Building them as they did before, with half tightened fasteners all over and soda bottles in the doors to rattle around?
Sadly, in my experience this is true. I had an 04 XJ6 (designed and made in Britain so no blame on foreigners) and when I sold it (for absolute peanuts on a new sticker price of £48k) with 80,000 miles on it was literally falling to pieces. Corrosion all over the body, failed satnav/climate system, brakes shot, rattles everywhere. Really poor. I now have an E Class and it's better in just about every way.

Wife had a Discovery 3 (called LR3 in the US) and it broke down about once a week. We swapped it for a Toyota Landcruiser (Lexus RX470 in US I think) and didn't have a hint of a problem.

I'll be very disappointed if the UK Government (i.e. me as a taxpayer) bails them out. They are owned by an Indian billionaire and if he wants to save the company he can do it with his own money. Bottom line is that they don't make a competitive product and you can't make hay when the sun shines without putting something aside for a rainy day (Land Rover in particular, Jaguar has always lost money). Shocking mixed metaphor, but true nonetheless.
 

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I'm really looking forward to hyper-inflation once this correction, corrects itself and we start to figure out how to pay the added interest accumulated with all of this mess. I was just a little kid in the '70's and missed out on 20% interest rates being the low figure for a new home loan.

Buy your new Turners now while you can still afford one.

late edit: stagflation, not hyper-inflation.
 

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slcrockymountainrider said:
I'm really looking forward to hyper-inflation once this correction, corrects itself and we start to figure out how to pay the added interest accumulated with all of this mess. I was just a little kid in the '70's and missed out on 20% interest rates being the low figure for a new home loan.

Buy your new Turners now while you can still afford one.

late edit: stagflation, not hyper-inflation.
Does that mean you are loading up on commodities?
 

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That means I'm staying put for the time being and holding my cards close to ride this out. On the surface it seems like a good time to buy stocks low. However, with major hedge funds failing, etc....you don't know who has money where and with whom. It seems like the Fed fluxuates the price of gold way too much during times like these to keep the dollar stable.

It's snowing and I'm sitting here writing about the economy on a mountain bike website. Real nice....
 

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Tidy no disrespect but Jags have always been like that buddy :D
True, but the new aluminium XJ (X350) was going to be the one that put all that in the past. All the reviews were positive, the mags had it above the S-Class and I must admit it drove beautifully (mine had the air suspension and 20in Sepang split rims...looked like the donkey's nads).

Problem was, it was made of cheese by people who don't give a flying feck about quality, just making sure that they clocked off at exactly 5.00pm. To think I wanted to support my local industry and retain some proper manufacturing capability in my country (at least we can rely entirely on the financial sector for our economic strength, I mean, nothing can ever go wrong there, what with it being so well regulated and all...).

Never again, give me mass produced tat made by small children in sweat shops for the absolute minimum cost marked up astonomically to make people think they are buying something good...oh wait, I've already got a Specialized:D (I expect a knock on the door from their lawyers before this post is even read:p )
 

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I bought a Saturn a number of years ago on principle. Unfortunately, I was disabused of the idea that I should spend my money on a car because I like the principles of how they do businerss as the car started rattling, leaking, and generally going to hell. Since then, my purchases have been Japanese with zero regrets. I will gladly buy American when they make a product I want to buy. Just haven't seen one in a while (though the Cadillac CTS was on my short list).
 
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