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I have a Talas RL fork and the ride seemed to be getting a little squishy on me. So I was told that I should flip my bike over to let the oil that collects in the legs of the fork move back around the bushings and it I will fix the problem. Well the long and the short of it was that it did fix the problem. My question to the shock experts is how often should I do this or should I just store my bike like this permanently so it's always ready for the ride.
 

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Muggsly said:
I have a Talas RL fork and the ride seemed to be getting a little squishy on me. So I was told that I should flip my bike over to let the oil that collects in the legs of the fork move back around the bushings and it I will fix the problem. Well the long and the short of it was that it did fix the problem. My question to the shock experts is how often should I do this or should I just store my bike like this permanently so it's always ready for the ride.
I would'nt consider myself a shock expert but here's what I do with my Fox36R.
Every other week the night before my ride, I put the bike upside down for the night.
This has seemed to work for me.
 

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I would'nt consider myself a shock expert but here's what I do with my Fox36R.
Every other week the night before my ride, I put the bike upside down for the night.
This has seemed to work for me.
I did just that the night before my last ride I flipped the bike for about 24hrs. The difference is unbelievable I swear I fell in love with my bike all over again. I felt like I was on rails out there well this is definitely going into pre ride querk ritual.
 

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Muggsly said:
I have a Talas RL fork and the ride seemed to be getting a little squishy on me. So I was told that I should flip my bike over to let the oil that collects in the legs of the fork move back around the bushings and it I will fix the problem. Well the long and the short of it was that it did fix the problem. My question to the shock experts is how often should I do this or should I just store my bike like this permanently so it's always ready for the ride.
I'm puzzled about what you mean by "squishy". If you mean that you're noticing that the fork is sticking when you attempt to compress it, then lubricating the bushings by inverting the bike for a short period of time is certainly a good idea. If you mean that it's compressing more easily (and further) than it used to, then it sounds to me like you need to add a bit of air to the TALAS side of the fork.

With regard to inverting your bike, I wouldn't bother with storing it upside down. Inverting it for 20-30 seconds before each ride should be sufficient.
 

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I'm puzzled about what you mean by "squishy". If you mean that you're noticing that the fork is sticking when you attempt to compress it, then lubricating the bushings by inverting the bike for a short period of time is certainly a good idea. If you mean that it's compressing more easily (and further) than it used to, then it sounds to me like you need to add a bit of air to the TALAS side of the fork.

With regard to inverting your bike, I wouldn't bother with storing it upside down. Inverting it for 20-30 seconds before each ride should be sufficient.
It seemed to slip thru the 1st third of it's travel with unbelievable ease not the progressive feel that I was used to. I did nothing to the air pressure but the bike seemed to ride higher and have a more progressive stroke after I let it sit upside down. I know I am not crazy either b/c I wasn't the only person who noticed it or at least then the 2 of us are off our rockers. Or Maybe I was just having a great day on the trail.

I have sinced asked the person who gave me the information where he heard it so that I wasn't getting the "they say" bs that you hear on the trail all the time. He said at the end of the "fundamentals" video there is an interview with a shock expert and he says that you should do it.

I would love to hear from one of the true experts on this board to know if this suggestion holds any weight.
 

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Some say (even MBAction) not to flip the bike since the bubble in the brake hose travels up to the brake caliper, overheating the pad. Is that no longer an issue due to technological progress, or was it a myth? Or you don't notice it? Since I'm superstitious, I have, to this date, never flipped my bike on the bench. And Fox user manual says it lubricates the entire internals every time it cycles through, which sounds pretty much like a marketing BS, I didn't bother it. So what's the truth?
 

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I have sinced asked the person who gave me the information where he heard it so that I wasn't getting the "they say" bs that you hear on the trail all the time. He said at the end of the "fundamentals" video there is an interview with a shock expert and he says that you should do it.
FWIW, the Fox manual does suggest storing your bicycle upside down. It says:
Bitter Bear says: Store the bicycle upside down. Inverting the fork allows oil to run down to the foam rings and keeps them lubed and ready for your next ride.​
And, just after that advice, the manual describes the foam ring maintenance procedure in which they say that you should pry up the seals, wipe the stanchions and saturate your foam rings w/ Fox Suspension Fluid if they're dry. The service interval for the foam ring maintenance is every 25 hours.

Do a search of this forum though. I seem to recall that some posters to this forum had problems with their forks being essentially locked out after storing them upside down.
 

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KevinB said:
FWIW, the Fox manual does suggest storing your bicycle upside down. It says:
Bitter Bear says: Store the bicycle upside down. Inverting the fork allows oil to run down to the foam rings and keeps them lubed and ready for your next ride.​
And, just after that advice, the manual describes the foam ring maintenance procedure in which they say that you should pry up the seals, wipe the stanchions and saturate your foam rings w/ Fox Suspension Fluid if they're dry. The service interval for the foam ring maintenance is every 25 hours.

Do a search of this forum though. I seem to recall that some posters to this forum had problems with their forks being essentially locked out after storing them upside down.
Yes I have read that info also I have actually read the manual alot b/c it sits in the bathroom so it's always ready at my throne. But that being said I have gotten practical advice for maintenance and keeping things pristine from people that never makes it's way into the manual. So I just assumed that this was another piece of that information.

And to Hatake I can put my current rig upside down and have had no ill effects from my Juicy 7s . I can't however do that with my '01 Giant HT with Hayes disc b/c the brakes turn to shite.
 

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Muggsly said:
Yes I have read that info also I have actually read the manual alot b/c it sits in the bathroom so it's always ready at my throne. But that being said I have gotten practical advice for maintenance and keeping things pristine from people that never makes it's way into the manual. So I just assumed that this was another piece of that information.

And to Hatake I can put my current rig upside down and have had no ill effects from my Juicy 7s . I can't however do that with my '01 Giant HT with Hayes disc b/c the brakes turn to shite.
God!! no wonder people by Marzocchi, who needs the hassel ?
 
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