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Forum: It has been many years since I have upgraded my equip.
I would like less weight and better shifting.
I lose my chain more often than I like!

My old 97 DB has been upgraded over the years.
Now it is a #25 old man comfort bike!

I am running a 1x9 and would like to upgrade a little.
For now I have a Shimano LTR shifter and a Shimano LX Deore derailleur.

What would it cost, and how much better would it shift?
How much weight can I hope to lose on two small items?

TIA

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Assuming you plan on keeping 9 speed and just swapping the shifter & derailleur?

You might notice an improvement in shifting by getting a better shifter, xt or XTR. But I don't know what a shimano LTR is. The rear derailleur doesn't make much of a difference, assuming yours is working correctly.

If I were you I'd check the chain for stretch & replace if necessary. Service the pulley's on the rear derailleur & new cable & housing if yours is worn or sticky. You'll see more improvement then a name upgrade.

If you have an LX shifter then I wouldn't bother changing anything. Not enough of a difference between lx, xt & xtr.


Weight wise you might save a few grams, nothing that you'd be able to notice.

If you want to upgrade to 10 speed or 11 speed you will notice a difference. But it's not worth the $ if you are just cruising on pavement or gravel.

If you do want a "that looks cool" upgrade look for SRAM XO 9 speed shifter & derailluer, tough to find anything cooler than that for 9 speed
 

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Assuming chain and cassette are worn, why stay with 9 speed?

11 speed is really affordable these days and you'll like the higher end shifting. Anything but NX will work fine.

Alternatively just service your equipment assuming it isn't broken or worn.
 

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This is my do everything bike. Mostly it keeps me in shape for everything else I want to do. My partner and I are not kids anymore. lol

I have been happy w/1x9 on a 36.
The only problems have been the chain coming off sometimes when I go off a curb.
And sometimes it does not shift into first gear reliably.
This leaves me hanging when climbing a steep hill.

Not sure if I need 10-11 gears?
But if it will shift better I'm all for it.
How much will I need to spend?
 

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Your chain is dropping off the front ring? I'd try the new 11 speed, if it still happens then you'll want a NW ring. But I would assume the clutch will do a decent job keeping everything taught for city riding.

Looks like 10 & 11 speed are pretty close.
From Jenson you can go full SLX with an XT rear D for around $163


SLX 10 speed Blue sky
Cassette 45
Chain 20
shifter 30
rear der 49

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SLX 11 Jenson
Cassette 50
Chain 20
shifter 26
XT rear der 67

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The chain seems to drop off when I'm pedaling off a curb.
If I hold still, it stays on better.

By clutch do you mean the spring loaded tension on the derailleur?

My buddy and I want to do a 100K to get in shape for a full century! eek
 

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Your chain is dropping off the front ring? I'd try the new 11 speed, if it still happens then you'll want a NW ring. But I would assume the clutch will do a decent job keeping everything taught for city riding.

Looks like 10 & 11 speed are pretty close.
From Jenson you can go full SLX with an XT rear D for around $163

SLX 10 speed Blue sky
Cassette 45
Chain 20
shifter 30
rear der 49

144

SLX 11 Jenson
Cassette 50
Chain 20
shifter 26
XT rear der 67

163
Why an XT RD?
If anything, upgrade the shifter to XT
 

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The chain seems to drop off when I'm pedaling off a curb.
If I hold still, it stays on better.

By clutch do you mean the spring loaded tension on the derailleur?

My buddy and I want to do a 100K to get in shape for a full century! eek
A narrow wide front chainring will also help with this and I guess I assumed you already have one but if not that's the other half of the no dropped chains equation with 1x setups.

Example from JensonUSA:
Total: ~$130 (plus narrow wide ring if you don't have it already)

Or you could go for the Microshift wide range full drivetrain that has a clutch for around $125 (sorry, just remembered it exists!).

At it's simplest, yes. A clutch keeps more tension on the chain and reduces chain slap a TON.

Wow, nice! :)
 

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So I did a little shopping for parts.
Amazon had this:
Deore XT M8000 shifter $48
RD M8000 RD $70
CS M8000 11 sp cassette. $78

Total $195

Is this what I need for more gears and better shifting?

YIA

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At jensonusa.com
Deore XT M8000 shifter $39
RD M8000 RD $68
CS M8000 11 sp cassette. $63
SRAM pc-x1 chain: $26

At Backcountry.com
Deore XT M8000 shifter $39
RD M8000 RD $69
CS M8000 11 sp cassette. $64
SRAM x1 chain: $25
(If you sign up with Activejunky.com & click through their link to backcountry you'll get 10% back)
 
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