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mainlane said:
thats really nice...has anyone tried a 120mm fork on this frame yet?
I thought someone posted that they had, but I can't find it. I know that they did not post pics.
 

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Im just curious, wich size did you get and how tall are you? Im 180cm tall, so normaly I look for frames abou 18-19 inches, but when Im looking at geometry of theese frames I think that I should take 20".
 

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Infernal said:
Im just curious, wich size did you get and how tall are you? Im 180cm tall, so normaly I look for frames abou 18-19 inches, but when Im looking at geometry of theese frames I think that I should take 20".
Are you asking me? I am 5' 10" (or 180cm). I have long legs and a shorter torso, so the 18" fits me great. When I am looking for a bike I look for about a 575mm effective top tube measurement and I like to use a 120mm stem. So the 18" frame I have is exactly 575mm so it is perfect.
 

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Just had the frame delivered, thanks to this thread (ljsmith and others for the details). Everything looks good, but I have a headset question:

No headset was included, so I had a cane creek ZSC-1 (zero stack) that I decided to put in. I've done a few headset's before and have my own tool (threaded rod/nut with washers).

The top cup went in fine, but there is a small gap on the bottom one...maybe 1 mm, even all the way around. I'm afraid to go any harder.....what does every one else's look like? I know it should sit flush.....but I'm afraid if I crank on it anymore bad things might happen.......Should I leave it? :confused:
 

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Just had the frame delivered, thanks to this thread (ljsmith and others for the details). Everything looks good, but I have a headset question:

No headset was included, so I had a cane creek ZSC-1 (zero stack) that I decided to put in. I've done a few headset's before and have my own tool (threaded rod/nut with washers).

The top cup went in fine, but there is a small gap on the bottom one...maybe 1 mm, even all the way around. I'm afraid to go any harder.....what does every one else's look like? I know it should sit flush.....but I'm afraid if I crank on it anymore bad things might happen.......Should I leave it? :confused:
If it were me I would not leave it like that, but I would not force it in either. I would remove the headset and inspect the inside of the heatube to see if something is obstructing it. I also would make sure that both cups are the same length, or if there is one that is specific to the botom and top. If I didn't see anything, I would lube up the cups and headtube real well and try pressing them in again. If it still doesn't sit flush, I would take it to a LBS to get a second opinion. You may need to tell them it is a brand name frame with the decals removed, because LBS mechanics are likely to just say it is a bad frame without really looking at it if they find out it is a generic frame. They may also be able to press the cups in for you with a professional headset tool. With a metal frame I would say force it in, but you could crack the carbon, so you need to be careful.
 

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ljsmith said:
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waltermitty said:
I just put in a Cane Creek ZS-3. No problem. Wonder if the dimensions are different.
thanks guys, yeah, I think I'm going to have to remove the cup and check for obstructions.....I could have sworn it was clear before i started :madman:

Secondly, walter, the lower cup was deeper than the top cup (ZS-3 same size for both). However, earlier in the thread a guy reported using the ZSC-1 without issue, and all instructions note that the deeper cup goes into the bottom of the headtube.. If the headtube looks clear, I'll just go and source a lower cup from the ZS-3 line.

Thanks again guys.
 

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Turns out the lower cup on the ZSC-1 is slightly taller than the upper, unlike the ZS-3/ZS 110 where the cups are the same.

Went to the LBS and we switched cups (awesome LBS) and all was well.

Looking forward to building this guy up.
 

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Mountain Cycle Shawn said:
What carbon fork would be good with these frames? What offset and length?
The geometry is based on a 440mm axle to crown fork. So if you want a 71 degree head angle that is what you should look for. Every 20mm change in Z to C will change the head anglee roughly 0.5 degrees. As far as offset, I suppose it depends on how fast you want the bike to steer. I haven't ridden a rigid bike in a long time, so I don't spend much time paying attention to fork offsets.
 

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ljsmith said:
The geometry is based on a 440mm axle to crown fork. So if you want a 71 degree head angle that is what you should look for. Every 20mm change in Z to C will change the head anglee roughly 0.5 degrees. As far as offset, I suppose it depends on how fast you want the bike to steer. I haven't ridden a rigid bike in a long time, so I don't spend much time paying attention to fork offsets.
My diagram shows 450 for a 19" frame.
 

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shanesbw said:
My frame has arrived and certainly quick delivery to Oz :)
Frame was very well packed and better than most bikes from our stores suppliers.
Carbon looks good and finish looks just as good.
Cable routing is a little close to the head tube making the cable outers bend quite a lot, not enough to affect shifting though.:thumbsup:
There is just enough clearance for my new Maxxis Aspen 2.25 on the rear as any bigger and it wouldn't fit between the seat stays where they arc inwards.

Weighed the bare frame with derailleur hanger and bidon screws when I unpacked it, 1300gms. About the same weight of my CKT taiwanese carbon.

It built up very easily and everything fitted very well.:thumbsup:

Will fine tune tomorrow and post pics of bare frame and completed bike then as well.:)

Cheers.
Where did you get it from?
 

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Thanks again to the OP/thread contributors.

Here is my build, a few things to finish/clean up but you get the idea. No rides yet as I woke up to snow yesterday.......and oh yes, a chain usually helps :p

I'm going to leave the rear hydraulic hose long as it give me a good way to hang the bike.

Fox F80 RLC
Fulcrum RM 5
RF Deus bar/crank/stem
Shimano XT/XT/XT/XTR/XTR cassette/shifter/FD/RD/pedals
thomson masterpiece post
avid juicy 7 185/160

build weight 23.5 lbs
 

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