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uphillerman said:
Bit bored at work so though I would throw this out for discussion. So if you could build the ultimate AM bike what would it be? Stock bike or custom. Lets see what you think...
... and while we are at it maybe me we could could finally solve that age old mystery, "who would win in a fight, shark or bear???" :p

Heaps of of great superbikes but its all a bit mind boggling. It all comes down to what suits ones style.
 

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... and while we are at it maybe me we could could finally solve that age old mystery, "who would win in a fight, shark or bear???" :p

Heaps of of great superbikes but its all a bit mind boggling. It all comes down to what suits ones style.
Statistically sharks are most likely to attack you when you are wet.
If I were to elect a fighting ground to be in the Gobi desert, my money is on the bear.

Hmmm Gobi is quite warm, better chose a bear that is good in the heat, KOALA ATTACK!!!!!!
 

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Start with a lightweight carbon frame with adjustable rear suspension, from DH (7" or so) Down to a shorter XC travel option. Light weight air shock for the rear to keep weight down. Lightweight wheelset that are strong enough to hold up under AM conditions. Also light, but large diameter disk brakes. Strong / Lightweight cranks with an integrated spindle and ceramic bearings (or Hammerschmitt). Include the lightest and most advanced front suspension from Fox, Rockshox, or Marzocchi, depending on preference. Carbon stem / bars. There are many high end full suspension carbon frames.... Probably could build a 25lb or so full suspension rig that is strong enough to ride fast down hill and light enough to ride uphill (like we all used to do).... Full front and rear travel adjustments, where a rider can go from almost rigid to fully suspended with the flick of a switch. Its 2010 and there are some bikes out there that come close, but many are so expensive that we can only dream. ---->



 

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honourablegeorge said:
Ibis Mojo HD or Santa Cruz nomad, probably. Or some other bike.

More importantly, is the Bear v Shark fight on land or in water? I assume we're talking Great White vs Grizzly?
Um no, I meant Koala bear versus gummy shark in the kitchen sink. My money is on the koala :p
 

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Start with a lightweight carbon frame with adjustable rear suspension, from DH (7" or so) Down to a shorter XC travel option. Light weight air shock for the rear to keep weight down. Lightweight wheelset that are strong enough to hold up under AM conditions. Also light, but large diameter disk brakes. Strong / Lightweight cranks with an integrated spindle and ceramic bearings (or Hammerschmitt). Include the lightest and most advanced front suspension from Fox, Rockshox, or Marzocchi, depending on preference. Carbon stem / bars. There are many high end full suspension carbon frames.... Probably could build a 25lb or so full suspension rig that is strong enough to ride fast down hill and light enough to ride uphill (like we all used to do).... Full front and rear travel adjustments, where a rider can go from almost rigid to fully suspended with the flick of a switch. Its 2010 and there are some bikes out there that come close, but many are so expensive that we can only dream. ---->



And teh example is a bike with a sid fork :D

I don't think I'd want a carbon stem on my bike... I've got adjustable travel on my bike, but it's just on the position I preferred. I guess I might swap it for full dh sessions, but it works well like this. The difference in mine is 0.5", I think anything that would change from xc to dh and work even decently in both would be quite an achievement in engineering (we are not even close and won't be for a long time).

Lightweight parts are ok, but the important thing is that they are strong enough so you never need to doubt them.

Lightweight wheels are ok, but you don't wan to be thinking about how they hold up on the trail.

I really don't think you could build anything stronger then a good trail bike that would weigh in at 25lb's with decent tires. A really smooth rider could do great things with it, but a hack like me would kill it pretty quickly.
 

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The better comparison is great white vs killer whale. And that one was already answered for us. The killer whale seems to flip the shark upside down to put it in a state of catatonic immobility until it suffocates, then eats it. Awesome special if you haven't seen it. ;)
 

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The ultimate AM bike does not have adjustable travel. It has 10 inches of travel, so every jump or drop has a super plush landing.

It soaks up bumps of all sizes when you're not going for air.

And yet it does not have any bad habits when you're climbing or accelerating.
 

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For me, the ultimate AM bike would have a frame with a very efficient suspension design, geometry for comfortable uphill pedalling & bombing down the trail, enough gears to pedal anywhere, at least 5-6" of travel, burly wheels, adjustable seatpost, & should not be more than 30 lbs.

Yo pimpride, nice example for the ultimate AM bike...a superlight XC bike. :thumbsup: :lol:
 
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