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Taiwan-US-Japan... whatever... It's a global economy, I just live with it... Actually, I take advantage of it. In either case, just ride what you like-regardless what anyone else thinks of it...
BTW- The Yeti looks right at home in the snow doesn't it?
 

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It's a PUSHed Talas on it's maiden ride...

I wrote a quickie first ride review in the Shock Forum... It took a an hour or so of driveway tuning as its a bit different from stock form but once I got it out on the trail, it was absolutely dialed in. The lockout is now a stable platform on-off dial, the compression resists brake dive way better so you get more useable travel when hitting downhill bumps and the rebound seems to have more adjustability. Oh yeah, it's also plusher and the folks at PUSH replaced the seals so there is now very little oil coming out.
 

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Nice turq, got one myself.

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I was wondering, why is any oil comming out ok? You seem to have much more bike experience than me but if any oil were to leak from my fork I would think something is wrong.
Is it just a Fox thing or what? -Thks
 

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Fox's take

I was wondering, why is any oil comming out ok? You seem to have much more bike experience than me but if any oil were to leak from my fork I would think something is wrong.
When I first had the original problem (oil practically gushing out and coating the lower legs), this was Fox's official response from a pdf document they sent me (I can send you a cc if you like- it was very interesting):
"Hydrodynamic lubrication occurs when there is a complete separation of the upper tube from the bushing by a thin film of oil. Hydrodynamic lubrication is characterized by very low friction and no wearing of the bushings or shaft since there is no metal to bushing contact. During hydrodynamic lubrication normal bushing clearance will not be noticeable. It is normal for a new Forx to have a very small amount of oil/grease to accumulate on the upper tubes! Note: New fork seals have been grease packed at the factor. This grease tends to migrate out of the seals during the break in period."
Since PUSH uses the stock seals (but resized bushings to get rid of the slop), I'm thinking the small amount of oil leaking out is normal (compared to what was coming out previously). I took a picture of the oil coming out last night compared to what was coming out of it before, it doesn't seem to excessive. However, just in case these seals suck as much as the first set, I have the Enduro seals in hand along with the stanchion lube.
Here is the before picture
 

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Documentation

Since I'm very particular about my and my customer's bikes, I read everything from the manufacturer, mtbr, and google before I put on a part or replace a part (which is another reason I don't make any money wrenching...hehe) and my personal theory about my Fork is that the person that assembled the fork, did not install my bushings and seals correctly or did not inspect the seals correctly. As designed, the seals are supposed to be trap oil in between the legs, bushings and seals. There was too much oil coming out bushings during compression overwhelming the seals (which is why I lost 60+cc's of the 150 cc's of fluid in the right leg). Since PUSH resized my bushings and installed the new seals, the amount of oil coming out seems more normal to the picture that Fox sent me...
 

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I love riding in the snow...

Did you go down Hulls? You don't slip and slide? Knowing my luck I'd end up in the brush.
It was perfect yesterday. 1" of semi-powdery stuff covered up the icy spots perfectly. However, with the thaw-freeze cycle later that day and this evening, I'll be taking out this bike... You have to get yourself some Nokian studded tires if you want to ditch the trainer and ride in winter. It's more fun (and better training if you're into that sorta thing) than being indoors. Plus-the trails are empty! I use the minimally studded tires for the foothills...
 

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I shredded the frozen night last night,broke in the NR Firestorm on my 575.
20 degrees -about 10 with the wind chill!! Brrrr!

The 3-6" of packed down snow is perfect right now.

I got steadily more and more damping from my suspension.

The new NR would not fire up since i had it on the roof of my car,but it finally lit after i warmed it up and man HID and snow is fun if yer dressed just right.

I have some of those tires.They're great on icy stuff,but on snowpack i have a secret Nokian DH tire from 98 that is dangerous on pavement or rock but eats up the snow.It says Power DH on it (older than gazzies).It is all fins that look like lightening bolts. Carves like an edge.

The only peson that will ride with me is my lab Simon.He never complanes about cold,lights,ice,or frozen camelbacs :p
 

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It was perfect yesterday. 1" of semi-powdery stuff covered up the icy spots perfectly. However, with the thaw-freeze cycle later that day and this evening, I'll be taking out this bike... You have to get yourself some Nokian studded tires if you want to ditch the trainer and ride in winter. It's more fun (and better training if you're into that sorta thing) than being indoors. Plus-the trails are empty! I use the minimally studded tires for the foothills...
Your dog looks like he's all about business!
 

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Ridgeback..

She's actually pretty friendly but she does have a "stare" that freaks some people out. She's also a pretty effective bike lock.
 

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Batteries

batteries need to be warm for best performance.... It's OK to keep your lights out on your bike but on the way to the trailhead, try to keep your batteries warm. I used to have a peak charger (from my old RC Electric Airplane days) that I used to peak a battery pack before a ride when I had to drive to the trailhead (now I just ride to the trailhead)...
 

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Hey FIdaho, try those Enduros out or pm Chris2fur from Enduro Seals in Tucson, AZ, he frequents this site. I put them on my Zoke a while back and they were way better than the stock seals. But still, I can't understand how fox explains oil leaking from a fork is ok. As a customer paying a very steep price for top o' the line fork, I would march back to my lbs and request my money back if fox sent me that bs. And now I have one more reason to stick to Marzocchi and the new Rock Shock stuff.

FWIW my buddy has a float100 (2004 model I think) and he has never had excess oil on the stanchions that I know of, except the one time the seals actually blew out and needed replaced. Maybe its year/model specific...I don't know.
 

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Got them already

Hey FIdaho, try those Enduros out or pm Chris2fur from Enduro Seals in Tucson, AZ, he frequents this site. I put them on my Zoke a while back and they were way better than the stock seals. But still, I can't understand how fox explains oil leaking from a fork is ok. As a customer paying a very steep price for top o' the line fork, I would march back to my lbs and request my money back if fox sent me that bs. And now I have one more reason to stick to Marzocchi and the new Rock Shock stuff.
I already got the Enduros plus two extra sets of Fox 32 seals. At the next service with Push (for the Talas maintenance) or whenever the current seals blow (whichever comes first), I'm putting the Enduros in.
 
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