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So I have always been a "get outside and ride" type of guy. I used to commute to work a few times a week on my fatty about 15 miles each way, especially in the winter! Well I moved...the new house is great but now it's a 28 mile one-way commute. I did it this morning as I need to get some miles in, and it was good, but I have also been remodeling the house and need to drive my truck to work a lot of times to pickup stuff after work.
Basically I have been struggling to find time to ride! I have some long winter endurance rides coming up and I need to get some seat time! Do many of you ride a trainer or fitness bike just to get some miles in at night? I'm considering going to the dark side and picking one up so I'm looking for feedback. I know I should just hop on the fatty and head off into the dark on some gravel roads but that's not happening often enough. Thoughts??
 

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I have a love/hate relationship with my Saris H3 trainer. Indoor riding kind of sucks but between the short days and crappy weather there's no way I could maintain fitness during the winter without it. So totally worth it for me.
 

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I actually like indoor riding on Zwift. It's good mental training for being bored outside in a gravel race and there's always a convenient bathroom and wifi.
 

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I just got off my H2 and an hour of Sweetspot on Zwift. It’s very hard to drag my body into the trainer in the dark. But boy does it make me faster. If I could Zwift during the day I would. It’s also to be able to knock out 30 minutes of high quality training on nights you could never ride and have an upcoming obligation.

For sanity sake, Zwift races are fun and hard as ****. There is no consequence for blowing up in your living room, so you can try all kinds of things/tactics. Such as going out at 120% of FTP for the first 5 minutes Learning to draft properly on Zwift takes quite a while. As you move to the inside of the road, you are going too hard and your avatar is trying to set up for a pass.
 

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I sure wouldn't want to do very many long endurance rides on one, but for doing high intensity type sessions to supplement your long rides, they can work well. I find it essential for winter training.

Personally, I just haven't been able to get into Zwift. To each their own.
 

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I bought a Wahoo Kickr bike last February during a cold snap. I have separate Zwift accounts for myself and my daughter. It’s been life changing. We still get out 2 to 3 times a week during the winter, but supplementing that with the indoor training has been incredible. It’s not the most exciting thing to do, but the very noticeable results have been motivating in and of themselves. Good tunes over the AirPods or a concert on YouTube on my iPad helps me get through some of the sessions.

Looking forward to today’s session.
 

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I bought a Fat Bike solely to get outside, get some fresh air and get away from the trainer and basement. I put over 2500 miles on Zwift last winter and needed a distraction, but I would never look to my fat bike as a means towards maintaining a regimen. I think that would ruin it for me. The trainer is the centerpiece of my winter fitness and weight maintenance program, and as others have pointed out, it's a rabbit hole you can go down as far as you want. My wife does Zwift races and she gets in fantastic Spring shape that way. The fatty is for my sanity and allows me to do something together with her in the winter.
 

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It sounds like most of you are using a trainer versus a fitness bike like a peleton? Is there a major difference in the experience between the 2 types of training bikes?

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It sounds like most of you are using a trainer versus a fitness bike like a peleton? Is there a major difference in the experience between the 2 types of training bikes?

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Riding a trainer helps you train on your real bike. A fitness bike is a different beast. Some of the smart bikes are adjustable like your training bike, but too much for me to want to spend or deal with.
 

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It sounds like most of you are using a trainer versus a fitness bike like a peleton? Is there a major difference in the experience between the 2 types of training bikes?

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Fitness bikes can be convenient because they are always there and ready to go and don't have much maintenance, but you can usually buy a real bike and trainer for about what a good fitness bike costs alone. It just depends on what you are looking for.
 

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It sounds like most of you are using a trainer versus a fitness bike like a peleton? Is there a major difference in the experience between the 2 types of training bikes?

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There is a major difference between the two. My initial “training” was on a spin bike (I.e peloton) with no POwer meter,which really helped me go from a new rider trying to win at Cat 3. Then I got a trainer 3 years ago.

These days I have the trainer at home, but I travel for work a lot. I have given up on wasting time on life fitness recumbents in Marriotts. I will go find a spin class that has a PM based spin bike and do 2x or 3x intervals at 90-105% of FTP while everyone does their thing. It’s kne of the single best changes I have done to my travel routine. Worth 20 bucks each time by far!

The quietness of the peloton is important for many households! Consider that.

Also, we do Travel with our trainer! We spend weeks away from the house and can easily fold up the Hammer and Wahoo fan and toss it in the Tacoma. The trainer/fan/massive bike tool box all fit in the rear passenger seat. It’s very compact.

You can’t travel with a peloton or other spin bike. At least not in my Tacoma with 4 bikes and a dog.


Major difference:
Spin bikes in general do not freeewheel, meaning you cannot stop pedaling. A heavy freewheel coming down from 120 rpm, can be hard on bad weak knees.

Increasing resistance on the spin bike means you must typically twist a knob. Sometimes while mid effort and while standing. It takes finesse, experience and coordination to get it exactly right. Digital on screen markers help. Sometimes the jump from one to the other is “too big”

Smart trainers, you shift with the bike to change gears like normal, OR you are in ERG (ergo meter) mode which controls resistance for you so you just keep your hands on the bars and pedal. This works like a car clutch as you pedal. Like a car, if your power and rpm are too low when you take off, the car will big and stall. If your power and revs are very high, the clutches (magnets) will feather off your resistance and won’t let you put out the full power. Erg mode is one of the most important things for many new to structured training because it allows them to ride smoother more consistent power near the target.


Classes: you can do the same workouts/classes in each bike, but each poses a challenge and isn’t as good as the other at their respective class styles.

Spin instructors Tell you a resistance number to hit. It’s really just a guess. There are no numbers on your smart trainer, so you will have to self govern.


If doing structured training work on the spin bike, you must control your own resistance and get it just right to perform the interval. That can be quite the guessing game on a spin bike because you will have no idea which turn on the dial you need to hold 200 watts, 300 watts, 600 watts. You have to really learn where to turn it to and almost know this before the workout starts. Again, harder for a beginner to structured workouts, but definitely doable.

I personally find the peloton to be overpriced and a poor choice unless you have a family member who is going to take advantage of all of the peloton classes. If you have a extra bike, and your goal is yo get fast on the bike and have something that other members of your household can spin on. I would get the trainer, have an alternate seatpost and seat for your loved one, or a saddle you can both agree on and a dropper.


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Wahoo Kickr Snap and Zwift for me. I can design my own training sessions or just do one of the routes. It's just geeky enough to keep my interest, though about an hour on the trainer is about my limit before I start getting antsy. I can ride outside for hours, but not on the trainer. Definitely helps me maintain fitness during the winter months where the only decent option is usually a weekend fatbike ride on snow up in the mountains.
 

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My daughter purchased a trainer of me a few years ago as a Christmas present. I used it to ride in the nasty weather during the winter. It kept my legs and butt in riding shape for the spring. I still got to when the weather permitted it. It's tough putting the time in on the trainer and in a basement. But it did help.
Last Christmas our children and new Son in law got us a Peleton as a gift. I redid my daughters bedroom into a gym. Peleton, weights, a few yoga mats. It has helped keep me going through the pandemic and boredom.
I still prefer riding my fat bike but in the nastiest of weather it's a easy way to get a good workout in.
 

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Chief, do you do the video/virtual ride thingies? My family is kinda pushing for a Peleton type so they can all use it.
I would mainly use it when I'm short on time or if the weather is horrible. I need to keep the legs strong for some winter races.

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Chief, do you do the video/virtual ride thingies? My family is kinda pushing for a Peleton type so they can all use it.
I would mainly use it when I'm short on time or if the weather is horrible. I need to keep the legs strong for some winter races.

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You can’t use it all. You can do peloton workouts on the trainer, you can’t do any of the good training apps on peloton. They lock it up, won’t broadcast power and keep everything native.


The peloton app will give you access to the classes, just won’t let you compete in leaderboards via your PM on your smart trainer (which is dumb because I would love to crush my coworkers and clients with an 800+ Kj 45 min ride. )


It’s dumb. I would be recommending peloton to many families if they would let their TV run zwift/trainer road/ sufferfest. But no, they want you to subscribe to their app trainer based subscription.


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So I have always been a "get outside and ride" type of guy. I used to commute to work a few times a week on my fatty about 15 miles each way, especially in the winter! Well I moved...the new house is great but now it's a 28 mile one-way commute. I did it this morning as I need to get some miles in, and it was good, but I have also been remodeling the house and need to drive my truck to work a lot of times to pickup stuff after work.
Basically I have been struggling to find time to ride! I have some long winter endurance rides coming up and I need to get some seat time! Do many of you ride a trainer or fitness bike just to get some miles in at night? I'm considering going to the dark side and picking one up so I'm looking for feedback. I know I should just hop on the fatty and head off into the dark on some gravel roads but that's not happening often enough. Thoughts??
Yep. I supplement fat bike riding with a trainer during the winter, especially during the freeze-thaw shoulder times each side of winter. I just bought an old steel bike for $75--1985 Dave Scott Centurion Ironman--and a used 1Up Mag Trainer (best mag/wind/fluid trainer on the market for my money) for $40. I couldn't ride a trainer five times a week for three or four months, but it works well as an option when I can't get out on the fat bike in preparation for the Arrowhead Ultra. I also use a rowing machine, which is great cross training for cycling.
 

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Kickr Core with my old road bike and I use the Rouvy app so I get to "ride" in real places around the world of my choosing. Wife has the same setup next to mine. We just use them when the weather won't let us get outside to ride.
 
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