Any UST tire works great on TLR rims.Jnthomps08 said:I was tubeless. I switched back to tubes. It has been 6 months. I want my low pressures back, so I want to set up my Bonty Rhythms tubeless again.
My question: has anyone had any success getting non-TLR tires to seal?
I ran XDXs back at the end of the summer, when it was dry, but now I need something with a bit more grip. As a college student, I really dont want to buy 2 more new tires. I have a few hanging around (Ignitor, Ardent, Schwalbe Albert, XDX).
Tires for Bontrager TLR
I was tubeless. I switched back to tubes. It has been 6 months. I want my low pressures back, so I want to set up my Bonty Rhythms tubeless again.
My question: has anyone had any success getting non-TLR tires to seal?
I ran XDXs back at the end of the summer, when it was dry, but now I need something with a bit more grip. As a college student, I really dont want to buy 2 more new tires. I have a few hanging around (Ignitor, Ardent, Schwalbe Albert, XDX).
My question: has anyone had any success getting non-TLR tires to seal?
I ran XDXs back at the end of the summer, when it was dry, but now I need something with a bit more grip. As a college student, I really dont want to buy 2 more new tires. I have a few hanging around (Ignitor, Ardent, Schwalbe Albert, XDX).
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Any UST tire works great on TLR rims.Jnthomps08 said:
Yes. I've run regular tires on Bontrager TLR rims with the Bontrager rims strips and valves and sealant with good success. I've run Kenda Nevegals, Panaracer Fire XCs, Continental Mountain KIngs, Maxxis Minions, Advantages, and Ignitors (advantages and ignitors are a tad thin in the sidewall for tubeless though), and WTB Wolverines on a set of Dusters with good results. And I'm sure there are others that would work as well. Just stay away from uber light race tires, the sidewalls just don't hold up.Jnthomps08 said:I was tubeless. I switched back to tubes. It has been 6 months. I want my low pressures back, so I want to set up my Bonty Rhythms tubeless again.
My question: has anyone had any success getting non-TLR tires to seal?
I ran XDXs back at the end of the summer, when it was dry, but now I need something with a bit more grip. As a college student, I really dont want to buy 2 more new tires. I have a few hanging around (Ignitor, Ardent, Schwalbe Albert, XDX).
The bottom line is, all you can do is try. Use caution for a while after initial set up. You never know how secure a tire that is not intended to be run tubeless will be. So ride carefully and approach your intended pressure in increments. Start at 30 or 35 psi and drop the pressure in 2 or 3 psi increments over a series of rides until you reach the pressure you want to be at. While doing this pay attention to how the tire performs, how it feels, etc. I've found that I usually have to run my pressures a bit higher with regular tires than with UST or TLR tires to keep them stable. Also going to low can result in roll offs and/or burps. That and every tire has it's own "sweet spot" as well. DON'T just set them up and assume that you can run as low as you did with your previous set up!
If you take your time and do it right you can run regular tires on your Bonty's. Just keep in mind that not all regular tires like being run tubeless.
Good Dirt
I've had awesome luck with Bontrager's TLR tires in terms of sealing/reliability, and their tread design has improved dramatically in the last couple of years.
That said, I've experimented and had good success with some *gasp* non-tubeless tires. Mostly Maxxis. The Ignitor as Squash said has a thinner sidewall than I'd like, though I never had any failures. Much more comfortable with the Ardent and Aspen combo I'm running now. No burps, no tears, no problems. I'm really interested in Conti's new RaceSport tires. UST bead, sealant approved, should be reliable tubeless performance without the extra weight of a UST tire (Like B's TLR or a few others' tubeless ready but non UST).
That said, I've experimented and had good success with some *gasp* non-tubeless tires. Mostly Maxxis. The Ignitor as Squash said has a thinner sidewall than I'd like, though I never had any failures. Much more comfortable with the Ardent and Aspen combo I'm running now. No burps, no tears, no problems. I'm really interested in Conti's new RaceSport tires. UST bead, sealant approved, should be reliable tubeless performance without the extra weight of a UST tire (Like B's TLR or a few others' tubeless ready but non UST).
Bonti Race TLR rims with TLR rimstrips here. My best most grippy favorite non-UST tires to run tubeless have been front Panaracer Rampage (29") and rear Kenda Karma 2.2 (26"). Rampage because it tracks so well and Karma because it sticks to everything
Right now I am running a Nevegal (29") in front. It has tons of pinholes in the sidewalls and is a PITA, always leaking. In the rear I have a Schwalbe Fat Albert which has been great with the exception that it too has more pinholes in the sidewall than I would like to see. Sealant is homebrew (WSS) by the way.
Do what Squash says and you should be alright. Just don't go over 35 PSI when seating the bead unless you have to.
Go ahead and try what you have on hand. Nothing to loose but time.
Right now I am running a Nevegal (29") in front. It has tons of pinholes in the sidewalls and is a PITA, always leaking. In the rear I have a Schwalbe Fat Albert which has been great with the exception that it too has more pinholes in the sidewall than I would like to see. Sealant is homebrew (WSS) by the way.
Do what Squash says and you should be alright. Just don't go over 35 PSI when seating the bead unless you have to.
Go ahead and try what you have on hand. Nothing to loose but time.
I've always had to go to 50+ psi to get my tires to seat on my Bontrager rims.kmacon said:Do what Squash says and you should be alright. Just don't go over 35 PSI when seating the bead unless you have to.
Thanks for the help!
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Did you use soapy water when trying to seat?beanbag said:I've always had to go to 50+ psi to get my tires to seat on my Bontrager rims.
With soapy water, I was able to seat UST Nevegals on my Duster TLR rims with 35-40 psi. Should be enough. I've run my Nevegals as low as 27 psi and they still held (I usually run around 30 psi when riding... the 27 was just when I was trying to find the right psi that worked for me).kmacon said:Do what Squash says and you should be alright. Just don't go over 35 PSI when seating the bead unless you have to..
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