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Good lord, I don't know if I have ever seen a pro racer make a 26'er look like a kids bike more the Tree Farm. While I am sitting on the fence on the 29'er thing I can still easily see how a guy like this might need to start shopping in the big and tall wheel department.
 

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Good lord, I don't know if I have ever seen a pro racer make a 26'er look like a kids bike more the Tree Farm. While I am sitting on the fence on the 29'er thing I can still easily see how a guy like this might need to start shopping in the big and tall wheel department.
I've never seen him next to a 26" bike, only on a cross bike. He makes the cross bike look small, that rear 26" looks tiny next to him.

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Wow, that's a huge frame. You can't see his total height, but that seattube dwarfs the rear wheel. Kona produces 29ers, how long will it take to to get it to the pro ranks? Are racers usually relegated to one model, or do they get choices within the line? Never been spocered like that, sorry for being a bit ignorant.
 

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I've seen a quote from Tree that he has ridden a 29" and for general riding, he likes them, but for racing he NEEDS the quicker acceleration that 26" offers him.
 

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Pro's just love to get all scientific like that, don't they? The mathemathical difference for the watts require to accelerate a 26" vs 29" bike, all else being the same, would probably surprise most, when ever calculated by a thorough and reliable lab. Little do they know, actually rolling resistance is a greater factor! Not to mention grip and such...
wait till the Karma and Stan's tires are really available! Stan says early spring!
 

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Pro's just love to get all scientific like that, don't they? The mathemathical difference for the watts require to accelerate a 26" vs 29" bike, all else being the same, would probably surprise most, when ever calculated by a thorough and reliable lab. Little do they know, actually rolling resistance is a greater factor! Not to mention grip and such...
wait till the Karma and Stan's tires are really available! Stan says early spring!
Are Stan's tires going to be like the 26 Velcrow (no real tread)? I assume they are going to be made Stan's tubeless compatible? What is the story on the Karma?
Obviously tires are my sticking point with 29'ers(yeah still). I don't have plans to go back to tubes in the near future, and I played with Stan's long enough to decide to stay with the simplicity of UST. I have an opportunity to pick up a ti 29'er relatively cheap, so I have been scratching my head a lot lately.
 

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This whole acceleration factor really grows tiring. Once you learn to ride a 29'er, you don't need to factor in acceleration as much because now you deal with momentum. The bike will naturally carry speed through corners and over roots/rock better so you don't need to accelerate as much.
 

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This whole acceleration factor really grows tiring. Once you learn to ride a 29'er, you don't need to factor in acceleration as much because now you deal with momentum. The bike will naturally carry speed through corners and over roots/rock better so you don't need to accelerate as much.
Agreed!
Plus, the added traction, both while accelerating initially and climbing/braking more than makes up for the slight weight penalty. Not to mention you prolly don't need to slow down as much, so you ain't re-accelerting as much anyhoo...

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It's so simple to me. As long as I'm on a 29"er and the guy behind me on 26", gaps will open up in corners. Gaps to try and accelerate-close, which indeed is a tiring thing to do, even with a 26" bike.
In a fast 2004 race it meant I had to do all the leading work, because I was killing the others in corners too much to have anything left to take over. Tiring for me, but at least I had a good view on the trail.
 

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Trebon NEEDS a 29"er!!

Whats all this about acceleration! Bah! I've never understood why racers think they need to have a wheel that "accellerates well" when they hardly have any tight corners at all on the courses these days. Whatever dude!

Has anyone noticed how tall the other guy on his team is? I seem to remember a guy that is about as tall as Trebon is.
 

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Has anyone noticed how tall the other guy on his team is? I seem to remember a guy that is about as tall as Trebon is.
I believe his name is Barry Wicks and yes he is almost just as tall. Could someone, anyone please get these guys on a 29er!!!
 

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Ryder Hesjedal lost the 2004 Worlds because his awkward body. Kept crashing while way in the lead. Tried 29", "didn't like it". Now a so-so roadie.
Rather than putting them on 29"ers, build them correctly fitting 24"ers. See how they like that for lateral stiffness and utter acceleration!
 

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Didn,t Ryder lose, because Flip was doped to the gills?
BTW I have seen Trebon win cyclocross races on a bobing 26er.
Talent and training most important, the hardware much less so IMO.

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Ryder Hesjedal lost the 2004 Worlds because his awkward body. Kept crashing while way in the lead. Tried 29", "didn't like it". Now a so-so roadie.
Rather than putting them on 29"ers, build them correctly fitting 24"ers. See how they like that for lateral stiffness and utter acceleration!
 

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How tall IS that guy? He make's me look like I have meat on my bone's! I'm 6'4" and often find myself wondering about the whole 29'er thing..... just from a proportion standpoint. All my bike's look like BMX's when i'm on them! :p :D
 

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Meirhaeghe was tested of course, but nothing found in Lugano. 2003 BTW, I was wrong. 2004 Olympics he didn't make becuse they testd him during his EPO treatment.
Lugano was won by Meirhaeghe on a violently bobbing "brain" shock bike. He didn't crash, yder did multiple hattricks, it was a circus. Like I saw myself riding a 26"er all over again. But 7 foot tall pro's don't "need" 29", and the purpose of 26" by being the most gifted rider on earth. Just not winning it all.
 

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Barry Wicks is one of Ryan's teammates, and Barry is also around 6'5" like Ryan. I am good friends with Ryan and wrenched for him on the national circuit for several years before he went to Kona. I have attached a picture of me with his bike at the 2003 World's in Italy. Seat comes up to my chest almost, and I am 6' tall. The bike I am holding was a custom frame which used the longest tubes available at the time if I remember correctly. Their bikes always make everyone elses seem small in comparison. I am pretty sure he does not have a 29er though both of he and Barry do have their hardtails plus a full suspension bike. Not sure if Barry has a 29er or not either. 29ers have not hit widespread in the U.S. pro ranks to my knowledge yet at the nationals except for a couple of Gary Fisher's endurance racers.

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Barry Wicks is one of Ryan's teammates, and Barry is also around 6'5" like Ryan. I am good friends with Ryan and wrenched for him on the national circuit for several years before he went to Kona. I have attached a picture of me with his bike at the 2003 World's in Italy. Seat comes up to my chest almost, and I am 6' tall. The bike I am holding was a custom frame which used the longest tubes available at the time if I remember correctly. Their bikes always make everyone elses seem small in comparison. I am pretty sure he does not have a 29er though both of he and Barry do have their hardtails plus a full suspension bike. Not sure if Barry has a 29er or not either. 29ers have not hit widespread in the U.S. pro ranks to my knowledge yet at the nationals except for a couple of Gary Fisher's endurance racers.

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WOW! Thanks for chiming in, Frank. Looks like i'd need to duck if I was in your work area. ;) Looks like i'd also fit that bike. No (cough)clearance(cough), but who needs that, right? "They" weigh too much anyways. :eek: :p :D

Damn, I suddenly feel more comfortable about being a 6'4" walking/talking popsicle stick on a BMX. ;)
 

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I have an opportunity to pick up a ti 29'er relatively cheap, so I have been scratching my head a lot lately.
Ha, He's gonna break soon. He just can't stand it anymore. Teamdickey goes 29. :D
 

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goddam another tall guy needs 29er thread
recycling is good but how about an original topic once in a while
 
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