[BWG]

Hope just came out with their front 9mm conversion kit ($33.00 from hopetechusa.com / 1-800-303-6863) so we can replace our wimpy 5mm steel QR skewers with a 9mm thru-bolt like the DT Swiss RWS TB Aluminum "Skewer" ($45.00). Now you can stiffen up the front end a bit without buying a new fork/hub/wheel. Riders have been using a drill-press to ream-out Hope QR end caps for a while now... and the good folks at Hope obviously took notice. I checked with a few of my favorite online shops and none of them had any of the kits yet (the two end caps), so I ordered directly from Hope.

The aluminum RWS (Ratchet Wheelmounting System) weighs 52g and the XT skewer pictured here is considerably heavier. Props to Hope for making a system where you can change a hub from QR to 9mm to 15mm to 20mm so easily and inexpesively!!!
Here's a photo comparison:

Ride report to follow.

 

[Schmucker]

Stupid off topic question... but could one use those caps in any 20mm hub to convert it?

 

[BWG]

Stupid off topic question... but could one use those caps in any 20mm hub to convert it?

I'm not sure if they'd work for other brands??

 

[UnitedWeRide]

nice, I will be picking up one of those!

 

[dgangi]

This is awesome. I'm going to order me 2 sets of these from Hope tomorrow.

Thx...Doug

 

[chollaball]

how does it work for a truing stand? Do you leave the 9mm bolt in place, or do you need to order something like Problem Solvers for 9mm?

 

[BWG]

how does it work for a truing stand? Do you leave the 9mm bolt in place, or do you need to order something like Problem Solvers for 9mm?

Since it fits a standard QR fork it should fit a truing stand - at least it does on my Ultimate stand.

 

[B.A.R.K.]

Thanks for the info BWG. I will be ordering these soon.

Here is a link to the "drill it your self" thread...
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=460766
...and an easy way to maintain the self-centering springs.

 

[frorider]

so there's only a 9 mm thru axle kit for the front hub? has anyone asked Hope when this will be avail for the rear Pro II hub?

 

[jut8]

so there's only a 9 mm thru axle kit for the front hub? has anyone asked Hope when this will be avail for the rear Pro II hub?

You can get a 10mm bolt on, or a 10mm through axle version for the standard rear end.

 

[boomn]

so there's only a 9 mm thru axle kit for the front hub? has anyone asked Hope when this will be avail for the rear Pro II hub?

To further clarify what jut8 said, the rear RWS skewer is a 10mm instead of a 9mm like the front. A bone stock 10mm thru hub should work

 

[AL29er]

Yep, RWS are nice. I ran a rear one with a Saint hub for the last couple of years. Weight wise the rear is actually lighter than the XT qr (66g vs 76g respectively). I think up front the DT is about the same weight, so there really is no penalty here.

Cheap is a relative term. I don't consider $100 cheap. It is worth doing the upgrade, but that is getting close to my barrier to do some parts swapping. Doing the out with the old routine I would imagine for about that same $100 up to $200 over what you sell the old fork for you could upgrade to 20mm system and skip a step. If you are devoted to the 9mm fork though this may be a price you are willing to endure.

 

[Juanmoretime]

I'm scratching my head as I read this thread. I run either a Reba or a Exotic carbon rigid fork with a KCNC 21 gram skewer and it holds my wheel just fine in the dropouts of my forks. I feel like I'm looking at a solution to a non-existent problem.:yesnod:

 

[boomn]

I'm scratching my head as I read this thread. I run either a Reba or a Exotic carbon rigid fork with a KCNC 21 gram skewer and it holds my wheel just fine in the dropouts of my forks. I feel like I'l looking at a solution to a non-existent problem.:yesnod:

Its not that people are afraid their wheel will fall out of the fork, its that this type of skewer holds everything tighter in such a way that it even eliminates movement between the fork legs. That is where the extra stiffness comes from on a 20mm fork: the fact that the legs of the fork can't twist or move relative to each other. These skewers replicate some of that on a regular QR fork

 

[chollaball]

I'm scratching my head as I read this thread. I run either a Reba or a Exotic carbon rigid fork with a KCNC 21 gram skewer and it holds my wheel just fine in the dropouts of my forks. I feel like I'l looking at a solution to a non-existent problem.:yesnod:

just depends what you ride and how you ride. In my terrain in AZ, a TA is definitely a nice option.

 

[bobbotron]

That's awesome. I wish this had come out a few months ago when I built up a new set of wheels. Oh well.

 

[theycallmeE]

Hope just came out with their front 9mm conversion kit ($33.00 from hopetechusa.com / 1-800-303-6863) so we can replace our wimpy 5mm steel QR skewers with a 9mm thru-bolt like the DT Swiss RWS TB Aluminum "Skewer" ($45.00). Now you can stiffen up the front end a bit without buying a new fork/hub/wheel. Riders have been using a drill-press to ream-out Hope QR end caps for a while now... and the good folks at Hope obviously took notice. I checked with a few of my favorite online shops and none of them had any of the kits yet (the two end caps), so I ordered directly from Hope.

The aluminum RWS (Ratchet Wheelmounting System) weighs 52g and the XT skewer pictured here is considerably heavier. Props to Hope for making a system where you can change a hub from QR to 9mm to 15mm to 20mm so easily and inexpesively!!!
Here's a photo comparison:

Ride report to follow.

Hey BWG, this is a great post. It's nice to see riders interested in helping other riders. And the pics are outstanding in their detail.:thumbsup:

I'm just a tiny bit confused about one thing. It seems like you are showing a comparison between the DT RWS system and a regular QR skewer, although you are posting about the HOPE system.

Are you saying that the DT RWS is what one uses on a HOPE hub? Or, is the HOPE system similar enough to the DT's that one can understand it the same way. I have the DT system, it works great, and I'd recommend it to anyone (although a tiny grumble - it's not really a "ratcheting system").

Do you have pics of the HOPE system? Sorry if I'm just missing something. Thanks,

E

 

[boomn]

Hey BWG, this is a great post. It's nice to see riders interested in helping other riders. And the pics are outstanding in their detail.:thumbsup:

I'm just a tiny bit confused about one thing. It seems like you are showing a comparison between the DT RWS system and a regular QR skewer, although you are posting about the HOPE system.

Are you saying that the DT RWS is what one uses on a HOPE hub? Or, is the HOPE system similar enough to the DT's that one can understand it the same way. I have the DT system, it works great, and I'd recommend it to anyone (although a tiny grumble - it's not really a "ratcheting system").

Do you have pics of the HOPE system? Sorry if I'm just missing something. Thanks,

E

DT Swiss makes the oversized skewers seen in the picture, but it won't work in a Hope hub without special replacement endcaps from Hope that were not previously available

 

[theycallmeE]

DT Swiss makes the oversized skewers seen in the picture, but it won't work in a Hope hub without special replacement endcaps from Hope that were not previously available

Hey boomn, I get that. I guess I'm just wondering why there are pictures of the DT system on a post about a Hope system...

E

 

[boomn]

Hey boomn, I get that. I guess I'm just wondering why there are pictures of the DT system on a post about a Hope system...

E

I'm not sure I understand your question then?:crazy:

Neither one is a complete system. Hope does not make an oversized skewer, only DT Swiss does. But Hope makes parts for their own hub so you can use the DT Swiss skewer. Neither one works without the other on a Hope hub

The Hope "system" that the OP mentioned is simply that Hope hubs were designed with easily replaceable end caps