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This pretty much explains it....

Fans of “The Sopranos” are seizing on clues suggesting the controversial blackout which abruptly ended the TV mob drama meant that Tony Soprano was rubbed out, and HBO said on Thursday they may be on to something.

One clue in particular, a flashback in the penultimate episode to a conversation between Tony and his brother-in-law about death, gained credence as an HBO spokesman called it a “legitimate” hint and confirmed that series creator David Chase had a definite ending in mind.

“While he won’t say to me 100 percent what it all means, he says some people who’ve guessed have come closer than others,” HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer told Reuters after speaking to Chase.

“There are definitely things there that he intended for people to pick up on,” Schaffer said.

Chase himself suggested as much in an interview on Tuesday with The Star-Ledger newspaper of New Jersey when he said of his end to the HBO series, “Anyone who wants to watch it, it’s all there.”

In the final moments of Sunday’s concluding episode, Tony, the conflicted mob boss who has just survived a round of gangland warfare, sits in a diner with his family munching on onion rings as the 1980s song by rock band Journey, “Don’t Stop Believing,” blares from a juke box.

Tension builds as a suspicious man wearing a “Members Only” jacket eyes Tony from a nearby counter before slipping into a restroom. Then, as Tony looks toward the restaurant’s entrance, the screen abruptly goes blank in mid-scene — with no picture or sound for 10 seconds — until the credits roll silently.

Stunned viewers, many initially believing something had gone wrong with their cable TV reception, were left wondering whether Tony ended up “whacked” or whether his sordid life went on as usual.

The jarring, fill-in-the-blank finale, concluding a show widely hailed as America’s greatest television drama, sparked a furious debate about whether Chase had conceived of an actual ending and whether he left the audience any clues.

The biggest hint, according to a consensus taking shape on the Web, is a scene from an earlier episode in which Tony and his brother-in-law, Bobby Bacala, muse about what it feels like to die.

“At the end, you probably don’t hear anything, everything just goes black,” Bobby says while they sit fishing in a small boat on a lake.

That scene is recalled briefly in a flashback played at the end of the penultimate “Sopranos” episode, as Tony is lying in the darkened room of a safehouse clutching a machine gun to his chest in the midst of a mob war.

“I think that is one of the most legitimate things to look at,” Schaffer said when asked about theories that the Bobby Bacala flashback was meant to foreshadow Tony’s death.

Moreover, he said the man in the “Members Only” jacket could be interpreted as a symbolic reference to membership in the mob. “Members Only” also was the title of the episode in which Tony’s demented Uncle Junior shoots him in the gut.

The “Members Only” guy was played by the owner of a real-life pizza parlor, Paolo Colandrea. Schaffer denied reports that Colandrea had appeared earlier in the series as the nephew of Tony’s New York gang rival, or that there ever was such a character. He also dismissed reports that Chase had filmed more than one ending to the finale.
 

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Gandolfini swore yesterday he didn't know if he was offed at the end or not according to the NY Post - I just think Chase wanted to leave us guessing and leave room for a film....but the most compelling characters are all dead...
 

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If you look closely at the members guy he has a gun under his jacket so does the black guy. They could be feds. There were rumors that they were going to make a Sapranos movie next year. They must all ride Turners except for Phil he looks like a Ellsworth guy.
 

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blackagness said:
That still told me jack nothin! :madman:
OK, let me break it down for you...

In the 1st episode of this year, Tony is sitting in a canoe with his brother-in-law, Bobby, lamenting about life. They get to the topic of death, and Bobby says, "At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black,"

In 7th episode, the one just before the finale, Tony is trying to go to sleep at the safe house with the machine gun on his chest, and he flashes back to what Bobby said about death. There is NO OTHER REASON to flash back to that conversation, except to elude to what might happen in the finale.

Sure enough, you don't hear anything(closing music), and everything went black.

This introduces a "Who shot JR?" ending to the series, and frankly I don't care who got him. All the characters in that diner had been in the show before, as friends and family of people that Tony had killed.
 

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The Squeaky Wheel said:
Translation: You're not smart enough to figure it out

Dusty, your theory about everyone in that diner having an association to Tony is false and was disproved.

The true meaning of the ending is
Disproved by who? Some nerds on a stupid message board?
 

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Aquaholic said:
Absolutely the lamest ending for what was arguably the best television, ever.

Even more of a disappointment than the last Seinfeld.
what would you know about it? go back to making records, the world needs more James Taylor music!
 

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Dusty Bottoms said:
OK, let me break it down for you...

In the 1st episode of this year, Tony is sitting in a canoe with his brother-in-law, Bobby, lamenting about life. They get to the topic of death, and Bobby says, "At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black,"

In 7th episode, the one just before the finale, Tony is trying to go to sleep at the safe house with the machine gun on his chest, and he flashes back to what Bobby said about death. There is NO OTHER REASON to flash back to that conversation, except to elude to what might happen in the finale.

Sure enough, you don't hear anything(closing music), and everything went black.

This introduces a "Who shot JR?" ending to the series, and frankly I don't care who got him. All the characters in that diner had been in the show before, as friends and family of people that Tony had killed.
Yeah I got that much minuse a few spots I didn't pick up that yu just filled in. But I still don't really "know" he was killed, but let's say he did... was it just him that got it?... did the whole family get it?... What!!! I hate this show. The last three years have SUCKED, but they alway's made you think something was gonna happen.
 

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Sopranos

To those that don't know... It's a TV series.

TVs are those boxes with pictures and sounds coming out. People sit in front of them for hours so they don't have to engage their brains. It stops them doing exercise as well.

Every so often, something good enough comes along on the TV that engages people, makes them think and is artistic. The Sopranos was such a program. However, to re-address the balance, the TV companies will put out extra dross to keep the masses unfit and brain dead.

I hope that clears it up to all those who were wondering. Personally, I ditched the TV long ago - I'd much rather be riding...
 

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I KNEW a thread on this site couldn't go by that had anything to do with TV/programing without somebody poping up just to announce how thier too good for TV, and "of course" never watch.
 
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