Ocho, your "cycling inseam" height, and weight are all identical to mine. I went with a large and I couldn't possibly find a nit to pick with that size for me. Spot on, almost as if it were custom made.Ocho said:Cool. Thanks for the info. I brought the subject up with one shop very nearby and he wasn't too keen on ordering...but he;s like that. Which is why I don't go there much.
I can have the Salsa dealer order it, but the sizing is still an issue. I'll talk to them again...when I was in last week they really didn't seem to up to speed on anything. Nice guys but they were clearly focused elsewhere.
Hello! I have my Fargo now and I am confused about fitting. I have about same dimensions than you, 184/89cm (6'1/2'' 35''). My L doesn't seems good. It have extraordinary short effective top tube. Look carefully dimensions how angles varies between different sizes. Low seat tube angle mean shorter frame because your saddle setback must be correct. My saddle setback is between 6-4,5cm (about 2'').Ocho said:Some things are working out with my job and finances and as such I might just be able to join the Fargo club. I've been jonesin' for one and have had some email chatter with Gnat and read GT's and others posts. I know I want the Fargo but my question is which one. This would be easily answered if I had a stocking dealer locally but I don't. The one dealer near me doesn't have any. I might wind up ordering one from an online source if I have to. i'd love for the size to be right, heh.
My bicycling measured inseam is 34" per the book in the crotch, in bike shoes, against the wall suggested method. This is about 1 to 2 " shorter than whats considered my clothing inseam depending on who's measuring and for what clothing. I'm 6'1" tall, have average reach and torso, weigh around 225 or 230 on my way to 205/210 over winter. I ride a 56/58cm road bike and 17-18 inch mountain bike. I know for the Fargo I'm either a M (18") or an L(20") but in pics that top tube looks awfully sloping, so anyone think I'd have a problem with the L?
I'm always checking with the bike shop so maybe something will someday show up there but I wouldn't mind hearing from a few owners. Thanks.
mirrored said:Here we go.
Idea for my personal fitting with Fargo, is to get my lower hold to the same point where my upper hold have been. In other words, trying to rise a handlebar as much its height is. I compare to my road fitting where saddle (tip) - handbar (c) 53cm.
Saddle setback 51mm. (2'')
Saddle height 80cm to the BB. (31,5'')
Stem lenght is 90mm (3,54'')
First impression. So tiny frame! Very much too short saddle-handbar distance
BB's are in same place. Saddle setback is same. Saddle (tip) - handbar (c) 46cm. Different 7cm to Crescent!
There is about XXL: 10cm longer seat tube, 3cm longer head tube, 1 degree more head angle and 2,5cm longer top tube.
XXL still. saddle (tip) - handbar (c) 49,5cm. Yes! I could live with that. The stem is now 90mm.
Back to my L reality. This is the only way I have some possibilities get the fit. saddle (tip) - handbar (c) 48,5cm
How they can name it Large. Fitting with L is near to 56cm traditional road sizes (22''), and XXL hardly 59cm (22,8'')
Look my earlier postings for more information. Thanks, regards, Kimmo
ps. as you see, I am waiting wheels for Fargo. Those are from old touring bike with 30mm tires.
Your a bit bigger than me (i'm 5'11 with 32 inseam).Ocho said:My bicycling measured inseam is 34" per the book in the crotch,.... I'm 6'1" tall, have average reach and torso, .
And here is my body measurements and some Competitive Cyclist calculations.mirrored said:I have done measurements with my road bike (Crescent 58cm top tube, 58 cm seat tube c-c). I use a brush stem fixed by tape to show where the top tube of Fargo would be plased with different frame sizes. I pay attention the head tube angle and my conclusion was I have bought one size too little frame.
Handlebar comes too near to saddle when rising it good level - or I can see with XL size it is not too long distance. I want adjust Fargo road bar so up, that lower hold is similar level than upper in my old road bike. With XL I don't need so much spacers for rising the handlebars too.
I have not yet Fargo frame here, but it is very near. I will get it tomorrow or next day to that. Then I am sure about fitting. I suppose very strongly, I need to sell L and buy XL. I accentuate best touring acting in contrat to nimble MTB, therefore want a pretty big frame.
There is something about fitting. http://www.rivbike.com/article/bike_fit/choosing_a_frame_size
Look Competitive Cyclist too and their writings about different fittings. "French fit" is near to touring fit. There is a calculator too.
Read "The traditions of road riding and our three styles of fit"
See: if you go to MTB area there, you can find same calculator but different findings. (all mountain fit)
Thanks.Guitar Ted said:Good luck dialing in your fit, I sincerely hope you get what you are looking for.
You can be quiet too if nothing more to say.hogprint said:Perhaps this is getting a bit OCD?
Sometimes said:Any chance the Fargo will ever be offered with an EBB?
I really, really like the frameset but really, really want an EBB for an IGH.
I've actually been considering an El Mariachi frameset (bidding on one on eBay right this moment) but I chanced upon the Fargo frameset & it really, really appeals to me. Only the lack of an EBB prevents me from buying it right this moment. Oh well ...
Thanks in advance.
Henry......err Joe Dirt....umm..I mean Mr. Wound - Nice bike sir! Welcome to the tribe. Next time we meet, I'll show you the secret handshake..Henrythewound said:I have been lurking on this thread for a bit and about to pull the trigger on a Med (18") Fargo. I ride a 18" Voodoo Dambala so I think it will be the right size. I will be ordering the bike sight unseen unfortunately, but I have inspected other Salsa bikes previously and liked what I saw. Based on all the info in this thread I am super excited to order it and start riding. I'm going to use it as my commuter bike with the option to head off into the hills for a few.
There are some deals to be had compared with normal retail pricing. i found the built bike for ~$1600 from Cambria bikes although I'm ordering it through a LBS for a bit less. Can't wait!