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Just wondering what suggesting could be giving to newer riders during this time of year.
Thank you Carl and the LM Team Average Riders who came out Thanksgiving Day. This was truely my coldest riding experience. A bit under dress and unprepared.
Clip in pedals and one Shoe. LOL :D I was browsing some sights to build my clothes and accessories collection and just wanted ideas on Fall/Winter wear.

What essentials do you suggest?
 

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windstopper gloves
baklava (not sure on spelling there!)
turtleneck base layer
 

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Neen said:
baklava (not sure on spelling there!)
Isn't that a Greek desert Neen....
You sweet tooth you :D
Do you cycle with a few instead of the run of the mill cliff bar.
Missed you on the allamuchy ride.

I got nothing useful to add....
 

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I can offer some insight...

As one who rides in any kind of weather.

You will feel the cold from your feet, ears and hands first. Once those are covered things feel a lot better.
First I would suggest booties, the neoprene ones from Performance are great. Most times I ride with regular socks that way, when it's really cold ski socks.
If nothing else, skiing gloves will do the trick, although you'll have to get used to the limited dexterity. 661 makes nice winter riding gloves if you can afford them.
Next a winter headband will usually be enough. Keep the greek pastry in a pocket ;) though. The reasoning here is that you are going to sweat, and you don't want to hit a descent with a wet head in the cold. Trust me.

After that you can wear leayers for the bottom, make one of those windproof. It's almost never too much down there.
On the top try to wear things that don't hold moisture too much. Again you're going to alternately sweat uphill and coast downhill. On really cold days I'll wear a cycling jersey (takes moisture away from your body), a cycling winter vest (old stuff but windproof) and fleece over it (nice because the cycling vest looks ghetto).

Always take some sort of high energy food, riding in the cold is hard on the metabolism. Always tell someone where you're going if you're riding alone.

HTH,

Maurice
 

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Cliff bars are so old school :p
How was allamuchy? we did a very short Hartshorne ride before our turkey.
Hows that new baby doing?
 

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Hows that new baby doing?
No New Baby! Quit spreading these stories.
How am I supposed to meet nice single women on the trails if you keep
telling people I have another child?? :eek:
I save all my energy for the SS, no baby making here :cool:
 

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If you are willing to make the investment, Lake winter shoes are the best thing for keeping your feet dry & warm. They are not cheap, but they will provide years of use.
 

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Definetely protect your outer extremeties 1st like Maurice said. Balacava , ski mask, running beanie depending on temps.

Some examples of how I dress depending on ride time temps (not hi for the day)


Anything above 55F I could get away with lycra shorts and short sleeve jersey,reg gloves

45-55 F Long sleeve jersey( or short sleeve with arm warmers) and thick shorts ,reg gloves

35-45 F thick shorts w/leg warmers , long slv jersey, light cycling jacket, maybe sock type booties, regular gloves.

25-35 F DH pants(not bulky by ankles and warm) w/ chamois shorts inside, long slv jersey, vest, cycling jacket, camelbak winter hose, balacava, neoperene gloves with 2nd set of old gloves that fit on top(when I get warm, stash away the 2nd one), neoperene booties .

15-25 F add , snowboard gloves, change vest for thick fleece, thick socks,neop-booties,(hope that suspension works in the cold and don't get frozen der. or pulleys)

Also gore-tex socks on top of regular ones on those cold wet rides.

All this stuff can get expensive so I buy these online mostly when they are on sale when I don't need them. I might start looking for some good deals on summer clothing now. ;)
 

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Get a trainer. It will be much warmer indoors but make sure you blow a fan on you since perceived exertion is much higher and you will sweat a lot. My best workouts are on a trainer since I can control my efforts with precision. DVDs help alot with the boredom. My reccomendation is any Curb your Enthusiam season.

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Get a trainer. It will be much warmer indoors but make sure you blow a fan on you since perceived exertion is much higher and you will sweat a lot. My best workouts are on a trainer since I can control my efforts with precision. DVDs help alot with the boredom. My reccomendation is any Curb your Enthusiam season.

Carl
any reccomendation on trainers?
 

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Thank You

All points given will be much to consider. I will look in to some of the itmes here. I clearly understand that riding and training is thje biggest key to stay on pace with the Team ride. My first step was the first bike now I'm seeking the right gear and the next bike. I will continue to ride when time allow and would like your training recomendations. I been on mtn bikes for years but this summer was when I decided to step it up and look forward to my first race. The LM team ride this summer was the start of my training. :D
 

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jeez, im going to sound preechy...

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All points given will be much to consider. I will look in to some of the itmes here. I clearly understand that riding and training is thje biggest key to stay on pace with the Team ride. My first step was the first bike now I'm seeking the right gear and the next bike. I will continue to ride when time allow and would like your training recomendations. I been on mtn bikes for years but this summer was when I decided to step it up and look forward to my first race. The LM team ride this summer was the start of my training. :D
Get a copy of Joe Friel's "cyclists/or mountain bikers' training bible"
when i first acquired this book, i read through it and dismissed it as for those who were"really serious"
then, when we met, my current girlfriend of 2.5 years handed me my ass on a "hard 20 mile" ride and told me that if I wanted to race(which i did) and wanted to spend time with her(which i did) and wanted to take my aspirations seriously then i needed to get this book and she would help coach me using it as a guide. I had been riding for about 8 years at the time and was quite fit, but the next year was the greatest leap of cycling ability ive EVER made. It will help you establish and attain your goals using the least time and effort possible.

more to your point, it has lots and lots of practical advice on winter training.
best of luck, and check out the "toe warmers" at the hardware store. youll find them right up at the counter.

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I wear therma fleece bib tights with a long sleeve base layer tee under it. Short sleeve riding jersey over that and 1 of 2 jackets I have of varying thickness depending on temp. I put these sock covers over my regular riding socks that are just great. They're called Hyperlite Stormsocks. Regular long finger riding gloves that I'll wear thin glove liners if cold enough. Also a thin skull cap under the helmut that cover the ears. Always comfy after a few minutes pedaling. Coldest I've ridden was around 15. (that was maybe too cold!) Leaving for business tomorrow in the south. (Fla, Tn, Ga and Tx). Fortunately won't be needing cold weather riding gear. Unfortunately will be off the bike for 8 days! Hope to catch some surf in Fla. Maybe find a nice trail to run.
 

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any reccomendation on trainers?
I am currently using a Cyclops Fluid 2 trainer. It works great and is very quiet....good for watching TV. The best thing about the trainer is the way it changes its power according to your cadence and gear changes. Got it on Ebay for 219 dollars and comes with a lifetime warranty...can't beat it.

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I am currently using a Cyclops Fluid 2 trainer. It works great and is very quiet....good for watching TV. The best thing about the trainer is the way it changes its power according to your cadence and gear changes. Got it on Ebay for 219 dollars and comes with a lifetime warranty...can't beat it.

Carl
I have the 1up CPR A-2000 trainer and it works great. A little pricey, but comes with a lifetime warranty. My only complaint is that it's boring and I can only ride it for so long until I nuts. Nothing beats riding outside, but this weather can be tough so get some booties and winter gloves if you plan om venturing out in the cold.

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Training Videos

Anyone here use them? I have three different Spinervals videos that I rotate through and they provide some structure to indoor riding. The music is awful and you get kind of tired of looking at the people in the videos sweating and making funny faces (sounds like a description of a porno video, dosen't it?), but they do provide a good workout.

I actually spend more time on my trainer than on the trails these past couple of years as adult life has taken away from riding time.

Anybody have any experience with other types of training videos?

Mike
 

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Mike679 said:
Anyone here use them? I have three different Spinervals videos that I rotate through and they provide some structure to indoor riding. The music is awful and you get kind of tired of looking at the people in the videos sweating and making funny faces (sounds like a description of a porno video, dosen't it?), but they do provide a good workout.

I actually spend more time on my trainer than on the trails these past couple of years as adult life has taken away from riding time.

Anybody have any experience with other types of training videos?

Mike
I use MTV, VH1 and BET videos with booties shaking. Even that gets boring after 1/2 hr. I also have 1upUSA trainer. It eats tires for dessert. I am going to try cheap tires as suggested by 1upUSA tech support this winter.

I agree with Tommy , there is no substitute for the real thing.
 

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I haven't hade a problem with my trainer eating tires. I run 1.5 road slicks and so far so good, but then again I really don't use the trainer that often. I bought it last year to rehab after knee surgery and it worked great, but haven't used it much after that.
 

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more info about indoor...

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btw - the info on the trainers and beating the indoor cycling boredom is much appreciated!
The best thing ive found for beating the bordom is watching DVDs of television sitcoms. You dont have to think very hard to watch and they are in twenty minute segments, so if you miss something, you dont get very askew of the storyline. much better than movies that ive found to be just too long sometimes.
now, there are some really great action movies that have made a few hours pedaling in the living room go by better. you would have to search those out for your own preferences, but generally, LOUD, action movies are best.
One tip, if your going with rollers, be careful with the movies that have stuff like fighter jet, car chase, kung fu, scenes. land you on your ass.
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