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Toby's Cycle Works here in Vancouver, BC. I've have some buddies that did the same at Dekerf too. Took the frame home and bolted on my disc brakes and off I went, no shims, perfect work.
 

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Nice. I noticed you've got 6/4 Ti stays on that baby. It's all in the serial #. Was 96 the only year for this frame build with 6/4? I have a 97 KK - no 6/4 on mine. Actually, are you certain it's a 96? The seat tube is not extended as much past the top tube, indicating that it may be a 95.

If I'm not mistaken the only 6/4 on the regular built KK's were the head tube, BB and drop outs. You lucky son of a gun.

How does the back end respond with 6/4 on the trails?

Don't you just love titanium for welding extra bits on. No paint stripping.
 

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I've had this bike since new, and yes - 6/4 titanium - seamless drawn 6/4 titanium for the seat and chain stays. The bike is a 20 inch so may be deceiving on how much the seat tube extends. I actually had it painted at one point, chartreuse green off the head tube to match the Marzocchi Atom bomb fork..... The frame has been built up and torn down about 6 times now. I'm a bigger guy so having the stiffer rear end made for better shifting - or no ghost shifting due to flex. Never sell your ti bike, buff and polish in December for another build...
 

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top_ring said:
Nice. I noticed you've got 6/4 Ti stays on that baby. It's all in the serial #. Was 96 the only year for this frame build with 6/4? .
How can you tell the stays are 6/4? I don't see a serial number in any of the pics.
What kind of difference would they give to the bike? And what material would be used instead of 6/4?
 

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How can you tell the stays are 6/4? I don't see a serial number in any of the pics.
What kind of difference would they give to the bike? And what material would be used instead of 6/4?
Second pic, under the (Made in USA) 64 appears at the end of the serial #. This tells you that the stays are 6/4 Ti. The KK's that don't have 6/4 are using 3/2.5 Ti, which is what the other tubes are. 6/4 is a harder mix of metals creating a firmer ride.

Hey - Larry87. Is that tube set ovalized? It's hard to tell by the pix. I also noticed there is no gusseting at the head tube on yours. When did Kona start adding the gussets? How about a rigid Ti fork for your build? Mucho dinero!
 

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It was 1997 that Kona changed the Hei Hei King Kahuna to an ovalized downtube. As for the Kona P2 Titanium fork, I had tried one but it wasn't suspension specific and was too short. Made for a very light bike! Any suggestions on where I can find a Suspension specific Ti fork (that era we all ran 80mm forks) Not sure on when the gussets showed up - I think in early 2000 they made a titanium bike that was more freeride instead of XC.


As for rsquared28 question - the Hei Hei used standard 3-2.5 mix (3% Aluminum and 2.5% Vanadium / Titanium blend). This makes the titanium much stronger that pure titanium and 6-4 does this a bit more more. Having riden both back in the day, I went with the King.
 
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