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Before you post some BS about a Nicolai or a BMW or whatever, read this. The idea of this thread is to dream up practical examples of ideal bikes. I'm talking about stuff that doesn't exist yet. Spare no expenses obviously. Here's my example.

I would love to see a 6.5" Freeride frame at about 8lbs with the following features:
-Trek's ZR9000 aluminum tubing
-1.5" Headtube
-Horst Link suspension
-Uninterrupted seat tube
-Needle bearings w/ grease ports at the pivot points
-A good leverage ratio (j/k I don't even know what that means)
-12mm Rear thru axel
-Standover height in the range of the Versus Blitz II
-Adjustable head angle
-ISCG mounts (come on SC!!! geez)

Right now I can only think of something extra for the brakes:
-Diamond coatings on whatever (because of diamonds heat conducting properties)

Feel free to enlighten me upon any misguided ideas I might have, I know I'm no expert when it comes to things like types of aluminum.
 

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i want solid tires. no tubes, no tubless. just solid tires.

and no deraileurs.

and a chairlift.

oh yah, and a built in bong.
 

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GOOD JOKES GUYS!

Basic single pivot, no linkage to actuate shock
8.25 pounds with ccdb/ti spring
gentle falling rate 2.75" shock stroke
7.75" travel
64º-66º adjustable head angle
full seat tube 2º steeper than head tube
135x12mm maxle
lowish bb, maybe not sunday low
1.5 head tube
 

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I want one with a small and light electric motor assisted crankset for getting up the hills - the marketers can call it a Hybrid. I also want tires that never go flat.
 

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I'll play...

i'd like a FS street rig for urban assult riding

FS frame with 3,4,4.5" of adjustable travel useing an air shock. (probably would be single pivot or
faux 4bar style) no more then 4.5" of travel because its supposed to be a urban/street/dj fs frame.
-Also, the frame would need adjustable wheel base to suit 24" and 26" wheels
-Would there need to be adjustable headtube to make this better when switching
wheel base? Also, it'd be super tuff/beefy design made of aluminum.
Fork - A new Fox that featured 4.5" of air travel with a super stiff 43mm stantions and 20mm
thruaxel and carbon steerer.
Wheels - Blue Anodized Industry Nine Wheels with MTX rims
Brakes - Hope mono 6 breaks. with blue anodized parts instead of gold.
Components - Saint all around except breaks.

yeah, i'd like that. that'd be amazing actually. so far i haven't found a single frame that really fits this yet. Nothing in the right range of suspension and the amount of tuffness i want.

EDIT: I have found that the Nicolai UFO is the closest thing i can find to what i want. it's got the right travel, but i'd prefer air shock and adjustable wheel base. also, i'm not sure if i'd like that suspension for the style i'd want it for.
 

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Beautifully stated

sriracha said:
oh yah, and a built in bong.
what did you say b/4 that...:D
 

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Well hmmm....I gotta say bro... sorry. My nicolai is pretty close to this!
But here is what I would change based on your comments.

I would love to see the helius FR get a bit more travel ~6.75".
Frame at about 8.75lbs with a coil shock.
The following features already exist (changes I would like in brackets):
-Nicolai 7000 series aluminum tubing
-I like the 1/18 head tube
-Horst Link suspension
-Uninterrupted seat tube
-Needle bearings (w/ grease ports at the pivot points)
-A good leverage ratio
-10mm Rear thru axel
-Standover height in the range of the Versus Blitz II
-Adjustable head angle (slacken the HA a little bit from existing, not just adjustable)


Other things to change:
-Slacken the seat angle relative to HA a little bit (1 degree or so).
-73mm BB not 68!
-I would be down for some iscg tabs too!
- travel adjust from 5-6.75" instead of 4.5-6.0
-shorter seat tube...~17.5"


That is about it for me. I really love the bike right now! Just wish I could slacken it a little more without giving up BB height and travel so bad :)

Cool idea RC!

Booner
 

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ok:

Low slung jumping style frame designed for trail and serious FR abuse
seat tube like 15-16" range
long tt for my 6'4" carcass. (like 23.5-24.2")
Nice 6-6.75" of travel that gets progressive in the last 1/3 of travel
pivot somewhere w/in 2" of the bb. Could be single pivot, Faux bar or what ever.
2:1to 2.5:1 leverage ratio
Big, high quality sealed bearings everywhere, possibly needles in the main pivot
reinforced 1 1/8" ht that can take a DC fork with out any worries
HTA: 68-66degree
Chain stays adj from like 16.3-17.6
Very stiff back end. no unwanted flex
Like a 13" bb height with a long travel SC fork (RS Totem once it has proven itself)
Fork crowns on the largest SC fork must be able to clear the downtube for the X-ups
Must easily clear a 2.5" tire with lots o room left over incase the tire grabs rocks
ISCG compatible
Full length seat tube. STA: 72ish maybe, still trying to figure that one out
Could be made out of Cromo or Alu, or a combo of both not too picky.
Must tip the scales at 9lbs or less with Ti coiled shock
Must be made in the USA (yes i ride konas that are made in Taiwan, but i want a usa made bike for a change)
 

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Never really gave much though on what I could improve on some of the excellent designs already out there for DH. Im probably going to get flamed for this but I dont care. What I have been thinking about is a new breed of a road bike. I would want something still relatively efficient but still able to take small drops, stairs and a smooth xc trail on occasion.

I dont currently have a road bike but I would if it was something like this:

- Frame would be something like a race xc frame with 4 inches or less travel in back with geometry somewhere between an xc and road bike

- 3 inch travel fork with something like the head shock mated to an aero fork. Travel could be locked out by remote.

- Disk Brakes front and back

- 26 inch, 1.5" wide slick road tires on light but strong XC rims

- A telescopic stem that could raise the bars for dirt and drops and lower for road.
 

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RobsterCraw said:
Before you post some BS about a Nicolai or a BMW or whatever, read this. The idea of this thread is to dream up practical examples of ideal bikes. I'm talking about stuff that doesn't exist yet. Spare no expenses obviously. Here's my example.

I would love to see a 6.5" Freeride frame at about 8lbs with the following features:
-Trek's ZR9000 aluminum tubing
-1.5" Headtube
-Horst Link suspension
-Uninterrupted seat tube
-Needle bearings w/ grease ports at the pivot points
-A good leverage ratio (j/k I don't even know what that means)
-12mm Rear thru axel
-Standover height in the range of the Versus Blitz II
-Adjustable head angle
-ISCG mounts (come on SC!!! geez)

Right now I can only think of something extra for the brakes:
-Diamond coatings on whatever (because of diamonds heat conducting properties)

Feel free to enlighten me upon any misguided ideas I might have, I know I'm no expert when it comes to things like types of aluminum.
Funny but your requirements are actually dangerously close to my Nicolai Helius ST. I think the frame is closer to 10 lbs with a DHX Coil but I never got a chance to weigh it before I built it up. Here's the specs on my setup compared to your requirements:

6, 7, or 8" of travel adjustable
Not so sure how the Nicolai tubing stacks up to the ZR9000
1.5 HT is optional
Horst Link Suspension
Uniterrupted Seat Tube
Needle bearings
A good leverage ratio around 2.5:1 depending on travel setting
12 mm through axle
Standover with a 66 SL in 170mm mode with approx 67deg HT Angle is around 30" on a med frame
Adjustable Head Tube Angle
ISCG mounts
 

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i want a windshield that folds down like the old school jeeps....
I want one with a bazooka...so I can shoot WCH's winshield when he has it up
 

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8" travel, moderately slack headangle, initally rearward axle path, lower BB, steel mainframe(and maybe steel rear too), high, single pivot with internally mounted derailleur and concentric chain pulley/main pivot... Light as possible w/ Platinum OX tubes and the like. (i'm going to make this happen by the way)

Think a lighter BMW racelink different shock placement and an unconventional drivetrain...
 

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Well i would like a bike for both XC and FR and some out there features!! LOL,

I would have 6.0" travel,
Horst Link Suspension,
My suspension would have to have some wireless remote buttons for settings to change for different conditions or even better be able to have a senser so it can see what conditions its moving onto and change automatically for you:p ,
More buttons on the bars to lock front and rear suspension for climbing,
Would also have brake lights and indicators that automatacly come on when you turn left or right and brake,
Long rear mud gard so i dont land on the rear wheel when hucking,
34 internel gears built into some weird crank system with single rear cog,
Would also have 2 sideair bags that know when your bailing and automatacly explode underneath you for soft and harmless landings,

I think thats all i can tremember for now!!!!!
 

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no derailuers, i want a CVT tranny similar to what is used on quads and snowmobiles, no shifting required as it maintains proper ratios based on torque applied from the front and traction sensed in the rear... reasonable build weight not to exceed ~33-34 lbs, 6" max rear suspension... steeply sloped TT like the bottlerocket or blitz2, frame material something exotic like Mg for lightweight (don't know how durable it would be), durability would be first concern, full length seat post for sure, 1point5, air shox front and rear (36 float and dhx air ??), must be able to pedal well (doesn't have to be hardtail good, but has to go when i stomp on it) and keep the price reasonable... under 4g built with top notch gear...
 

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With a couple of exceptions (no FSR, interrupted ST, but still long enough for meaningful adjustment, different tubing) the OP pretty much described a Snister Splinter MX, too. I looked for over a year (closer to 2 actually) at everything, and my "ideal list" was pretty close to that one. The Sinister gives me everything I wanted.

 

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a lightened version of a judge, 7.5 inches instead or 9 or w/e it is, and a light but strong build
 
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