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Big thanks to Uranium bicycles for giving us a spot to gather saturday night for the BBQ. Also they offered us a free shuttle for Sunday's Burro ride. So if any of you are in Moab, go check them out. Marshall and Christine are good people and have a cool bike shop.

Marshall shuttled the group up to Burro Sunday morning. I did not get a lot of pics, so I will post what I got. All it all, it was a great time. (I can do without the massive hike a bike on Burro, but the payoff was good)

Pic 1: the beginning of the ride was through an obscure single track with mud bogs from the previous nights snow. Yes snow. We started this ride in the snow, it rained, sleeted and we finished in 90 degree heat.

Pic 2: One of the views from just after the start

Pic 3: Christina with some nice trees behind her

Pic 4: After getting to the top of Burro and finding my lungs, we had a long steep, switchback filled descent with about two inches on snow on the trail. After we got below the snow, there were a few stream crossings. This is view back up from one of them.
 

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After coming down from Burro, it started to thunder and lightning. We got to Hazzard and had the climb up to the top. It was pure muck. Mostly impossible to ride.

Pic 1: Jay showing good form pushing his bike up to Hazzard in the slogfest. Somehow I don't think this meets Jay's definition of "Porn Dirt"

Pic 2: The views from the top

Pic 3: And the view of my bike at the top

Pic 4: Jay enjoying the Sultan Demo. The ride down Hazzard was not as mucky as the climb, but you sure needed to have those "tokyo drift" skills. (I think my focus in this shot is about how Jay feels today)
 

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Pic 1: Another nice view from Hazzard

Pic 2: Jay coming off Hazzard, enjoying the Sultan I hear that thing has wheels like a wagon:D

Pic 3: Next came a section of Kokopelli, I think. Anyway, with the moisture and the much stuck to our bikes, it was like hitting those runaway truck ramps. chunks of dirt flying all over the place. My front tire was making quite the buzz from all the dirt stuck in it.


pic 4: Group waiting to hit UPS. Notice of couple of us still clearing mud from the bikes.
 

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After a brief stop for some food at the overlook, we headed down.

Pic 1: 6th Element snockered the rear derailleur hanger. He got some help replacing it from guy familiar with Turner bikes:D :D Notice Jay pitching in to help.:thumbsup:

I wish I would have got a pic of this, but DT even stopped to help a broken down Ells owner.

Pic 2: Jay and 6th Element on the way down

Pic 3: Jay approacing diving board on that Wagon Wheeled bike.

Pic 4: My RFX on Porc.


It was a fantastic day. A long day. I never thought we would have had the diversity of weather that we had. Amazing.

Looking forward to THC 09. I hear there will be RFX Demo's:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

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Great shots. Glad you guys made it all the way to the top despite the mud. Looks like the leaves were changing color too. Sorry we missed you guys this year.
 

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Wow! What a difference a few days makes.
We were unable to do Buro down because one of our buds had a collapsed lung and couldn't go that high. We went down from the top of Hazard and it was prime. No mud in sight.
Such a classic trail. Going from the golden aspens to the red dirt was just nutty. I PRAY that I can get back there some day and hit it from the top.

Great pictures! Brought me back to the trail just perfectly. :D:D
 

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quite a bit diff than the conditions we rode in a cpl years back huh? the hazzard climb was tough enough without the slog fest. ill assume it was still a fun time up top.

did you and jay hit the diving board this year?
 

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Good stuff for sure. I think that was one of the hardest rides of my life, mainly due to the slime and sketchiness of the first two parts of the ride. When you are tripoding it down steep slopes covered in snow and mud you tend to tense up a bit in your shoulders. I kept thinking I was going to spin off the trail and explode nascar style.

Really enjoyed the demo as well. This was my first time on a 29'er. I have been trying to figure out a way of getting a lighter XC type of ride and I thought this may be the one. The first thing I noticed was that the bike fit me better then any other bike I have been on. I'm 6' and have always been told I'm a "tweener". I would have to argue that I felt more comfortable on the sultan 20" without adjustment then I ever have on my medium spot with countless adjustment. I was instructed to point this out when I explained this to DT. So my experiences on the Sultan are thus:

First off I need to disclaim a bit. This was my first time on a 29'er so some of my experiences may be from getting used to that. My observations on going from a 26" to 29" are that Some things it did really well (holding the straight line through the gunk, climbing all those chunky sections), some of the things it didn't do as well (navigating the tight turns).

My observations on the DW are that it felt really plush and active. The shock was aired up a bit low for my weight with all the gear, so that may have contributed to the plushness (and pedal smashing). Realize that I am coming from the HL, so I have missed a couple developmental states. I really felt like I was better balanced, so the fit and geometry really worked for me.

Over all I liked the bike but the uber light setup scared the poo out of me a few times. It had light wheels, fast tires, 160 rotors. I weigh 180 without gear, and I was hauling a very heavy pack with all the extra water so I was probably around 210 with gear. The section after the Lunch Rock was really difficult and a big difference from the RFX I demoed last year. I felt like the bike deflected easily and my neck got really tight from all the jarring. I didn't really expect it to be otherwise, but I definitely felt near death a couple of times on that ride. I went down twice on the ride, once going over a rock about the size of a grapefruit right in front of Christina (very injured pride) and the other was from being deflected off of a three inch ledge. That bike felt amazing in a straight line, but throw in a corner or an off camber ledge...I think for 90% of the rides I do this bike would rule, but for Porc....not so much. I know, I know, duh.

So, I'm still undecided about if I want to pull the trigger on the Sultan. I really need to try one with a beefier wheelset and more aggressive tires before I pass judgement. I probably need to try the TNT as well, as I won't be able to afford the new frame for a couple years yet. I have to say it that the suspension and geometry on the Sultan seemed spot on. Just don't ask it to be an RFX!

Looking forward to next year!
 

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quite a bit diff than the conditions we rode in a cpl years back huh? the hazzard climb was tough enough without the slog fest. ill assume it was still a fun time up top.

did you and jay hit the diving board this year?
Ha! Coming off of a drop related injury, my head and guts haven't been where they should the last few weeks (I feel like Tom Cruise after Goose died). I started loosening up by the end of the ride, so it was therapeutic in that regard. Next time I'll let you show me how to do it.
 

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Yeah, a most interesting ride to say the least.

Great shots S!

A big thanks to xcguy for having water at the bottom. I conserved enough to have just a bit left at the end, but really needed more than 100 oz to stay adequately hydrated the whole ride. Another big thanks to Steve for the beer and the ride into town!
 

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in '06, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroeder met us at the bottom with the car. ive never loved another man but on that day i was close. the prospect of ridin up that fockin narrow and busy road in the heat of the day all the way back to town was not what i wanted to do at all.
 

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That bike felt amazing in a straight line, but throw in a corner or an off camber ledge...I think for 90% of the rides I do this bike would rule, but for Porc....not so much. I know, I know, duh.

So, I'm still undecided about if I want to pull the trigger on the Sultan. I really need to try one with a beefier wheelset and more aggressive tires before I pass judgement.
FWIW, I had rode Porc last fall and this spring on the V.1 Sultan. Last fall on Panny Rampage tires. Good ride, but pretty jarring. Last spring was on some pretty burly WTB Stout tires set up tubeless, so I could run lower pressure. Like two different bikes. A much more damped ride with the Stouts.

But I still chickened out from taking that noodly Reba off the diving board!
 

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FWIW, I had rode Porc last fall and this spring on the V.1 Sultan. Last fall on Panny Rampage tires. Good ride, but pretty jarring. Last spring was on some pretty burly WTB Stout tires set up tubeless, so I could run lower pressure. Like two different bikes. A much more damped ride with the Stouts.

But I still chickened out from taking that noodly Reba off the diving board!
Sounds like you were in the same boat as I was. What do you weigh (if you don't mind me asking...)? I'm just concerned I may not be the sultan body type. I'm going to hit up dave at Redstone to see if I can ride some local stuff with a beefier setup.
 

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Sounds like you were in the same boat as I was. What do you weigh (if you don't mind me asking...)? I'm just concerned I may not be the sultan body type. I'm going to hit up dave at Redstone to see if I can ride some local stuff with a beefier setup.
195 buck nekkid. The Sultan is my all time fave bike, by a small amount over the Spot. Better up, better down, equal in the twisties. Love it, and suspect that I'll love Sultan V.2 even more, with a bit more travel, and the same great handling.

Been running the Fox 120 a bit. Much stiffer than the Reba, even though I stuck with the QR versions (I own four QR front wheels, dang it!).
 

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195 buck nekkid. The Sultan is my all time fave bike, by a small amount over the Spot. Better up, better down, equal in the twisties. Love it, and suspect that I'll love Sultan V.2 even more, with a bit more travel, and the same great handling.

Been running the Fox 120 a bit. Much stiffer than the Reba, even though I stuck with the QR versions (I own four QR front wheels, dang it!).
You have talked me in to another test run or two. I have been comparing it to my spot, so hearing you say you like it better makes me think.
 

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if i may suggest somethin. when i rode the dwl spot, i began by makin comparisons to my bike instead of takin in the bike i was on which is the wrong approach. i never fully got over it but as i rode more i started to take it in for what it was. after 2 rides, i felt more able to make a informed judgment on the bikes performance, traits and whether or not it suited me. in my case, im stickin with the rfx but very, very interested in ridin its dwl successor.
 

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But I still chickened out from taking that noodly Reba off the diving board!
I did that at THC06 on a demo Sultan. The fork had to go back to Rock Shox after that one. I had a Sultan with a Reba on it, too. The Reba was the weakest link without a doubt.
 

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We rode that on Saturday

We shuttled up and did Burro Down Saturday morning. It had just started snowing when we were unloading the truck. We climbed up Burro and it started sticking to us and the ground. By the time we were descending to Warner Lake it was a mix of sleet, rain and snow and mad amounts of thunder and lightning.

After slogging up the little climb to the top of Hazzard, we came out from under the rain edge of the storm and proceeded to ride away from it as fast as we could. By the time we got to Upper Body Bag, we were in the sun trying to dry out as much as we could.

We finished the ride at the river with 90 degree temps and a clear sky! Amazing ride, I'm glad we suffered through the start - because it just kept getting better.

Nice pics and writeup!

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