[33red]

Hi, i am 64, an outdoor guy, in regular cycling the last 7 years.
I am tall, thin and healthy. Most days i ride 2.25H in the morning and 1.25H in the afternoon.
Last april the trails were wet so i played tennis and hurt a knee. About 6-8 months later it
was about fine. I kept riding but easy soft stuff and limited time. Now i have been enjoying
more action, single trakcs nothing expert but having fun on intermediates.
Pain in a knee or the other is frequent.
Have you found a supplement that might help me?
I know it might takes months but i am open to suggestion.
Thanks and happy rides

 

[julianw]

get a foam roller and roll all sides of your thighs to massage the muscles around your IT band and knee joint to keep them from getting tight. also make sure your calf muscles are not tight. check your seat height and forward/aft position.

 

[ElTortoise]

I had the same problem and taking Glucosamine/Chondroitin really helped. It's over the counter and you can get it in just about any drug or health food store. Costco has probably the best deal on it. It takes a little time to notice the difference and be sure to take the recommended dosage.

 

[ElTortoise]

I had the same problem and taking Glucosamine/Chondroitin really helped. It's over the counter and you can get it in just about any drug or health food store. Costco has probably the best deal on it. It takes a little time to notice the difference and be sure to take the recommended dosage.

Oops, hit the Post button too soon. It would also be a good idea to talk to your doctor about it.

 

[baker]

Agree w/ ElTortoise on both accounts. Glucosamine/Chondroitin has helped me at times and the doc has helped me when necessary (PRP once, and surgery a couple times)...supplements can only do so much.

 

[Jayem]

Supplements that reduce inflation significantly? NSAIDs, cortisone shots...THOSE will reduce inflammation and therefore pain. If the situation is such that the occasional use of NSAID doesn't control it acceptably, then you have a defect and either need to back off to where it is controllable, or get it fixed, but depending on the damage, you can't get back to "100%" in many of these cases, I know I can't. If you are riding twice a day, every day, you are NOT allowing your body to recover, it stays in a constant state of damage. You need sports/activities that work different muscle groups and areas that you can do on other days to allow your riding muscles and joints to recover some.

 

[WHALENARD]

Both NSAIDs and curcumin have a similar effect on inflammation. One causes heart attacks and strokes the other does not.

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[Jayem]

Both NSAIDs and curcumin have a similar effect on inflammation. One causes heart attacks and strokes the other does not.

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Efficacy studies? or is this a conspiracy?

 

[Stonerider]

Glucosamine/Chondroitin works. Also agree that you need to find another sport to alternate with cycling...you are suffering from an overuse injury riding 2 times per day. You're not 27 anymore.

 

[nOOky]

Do you like running? I started running again 10 years ago because of it's benefits of helping with bone density in my legs etc. it really helps to have something complimentary to cycling. I take glucosamine/chondroitin also. It doesn't seem like it does anything until I stop taking it, then the joints start to let me know.

 

[J.B. Weld]

The problem could potentially be due to many different things but most inflammation issues are caused by diet and can also be solved by your diet.

 

[Cerberus75]

Both NSAIDs and curcumin have a similar effect on inflammation. One causes heart attacks and strokes the other does not.

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I take a transdermal Curcumin/ Resveratrol ( more gets in the blood stream)and Cissus capsules.

 

[WHALENARD]

Efficacy studies? or is this a conspiracy?

I pulled both of those from the Mayo clinic

Can ibuprofen increase your risk of heart attack?

Common pain medications such as ibuprofen or naproxen sodium may increase your risk of heart attack and stroke.

www.mayoclinic.org

Mayo Clinic Minute: Are there health benefits to taking turmeric? - Mayo Clinic News Network

Can an ancient yellow root spice be good for you? A recent study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences shows curcumin, an active ingredient in turmeric, effectively kills certain cancer cells. While research continues on the role turmeric plays in treating cancer...

newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org

But of course there are more comprehensive studies, lots of them.

Risk of acute myocardial infarction with NSAIDs in real world use: bayesian meta-analysis of individual patient data

Objective To characterise the determinants, time course, and risks of acute myocardial infarction associated with use of oral non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). Design Systematic review followed by a one stage bayesian individual patient data meta-analysis. Data sources Studies...

www.bmj.com

Regarding curcumin the literature is vast, I'd guess into the thousands of studies.

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[Jayem]

I pulled both of those from the Mayo clinic

Can ibuprofen increase your risk of heart attack?

Common pain medications such as ibuprofen or naproxen sodium may increase your risk of heart attack and stroke.

www.mayoclinic.org

Mayo Clinic Minute: Are there health benefits to taking turmeric? - Mayo Clinic News Network

Can an ancient yellow root spice be good for you? A recent study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences shows curcumin, an active ingredient in turmeric, effectively kills certain cancer cells. While research continues on the role turmeric plays in treating cancer...

newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org

But of course there are more comprehensive studies, lots of them.

Risk of acute myocardial infarction with NSAIDs in real world use: bayesian meta-analysis of individual patient data

Objective To characterise the determinants, time course, and risks of acute myocardial infarction associated with use of oral non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). Design Systematic review followed by a one stage bayesian individual patient data meta-analysis. Data sources Studies...

www.bmj.com

Regarding curcumin the literature is vast, I'd guess into the thousands of studies.

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"Turmeric has natural anti-inflammatory compounds called curcuminoids, and these curcuminoids have been associated with a positive effect on various diseases," says Anya Guy, a Mayo Clinic dietitian. Those diseases include Type 2 diabetes, obesity, inflammatory bowel disease and cancer.

We aren't talking about those diseases and nothing in that article pointed to the efficacy as an anti-inflammatory treatment for soft-tissue/joints. Did you read the article?

 

[WHALENARD]

Did you read the article?

Yes?
The other article I posted on curriculum breaks down the individual mechanisms and pathways as it behaves as an anti-inflammatory and is cited seven times on just that not including arthritis etc. Again, the scientific literature on curcumin is vast.

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[Jayem]

Yes?
The other article I posted on curriculum breaks down the individual mechanisms and pathways as it behaves as an anti-inflammatory and is cited seven times on just that not including arthritis etc. Again, the scientific literature on curcumin is vast.

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Sorry, not seeing it, I didn't see curcumin or turmeric in those articles at all. The one article that mentions it does not point to it's efficacy as such. I've eaten a lot of food that is listed as having "anti inflammatory properties". I can't say it's ever brought swelling down like an NSAID and I don't see any efficacy reports indicating that it does.

 

[cyclelicious]

What is causing the knee pain? Have you had any tests to diagnose?

Knee pain could be caused by a number of sources and treatment / relief is different for everyone


I have a Baker's cyst caused from a twist and tear several years ago. Although it flares up, I can still ride, run and do crossfit but some days are tougher and I do modify or decrease intensity due to stiffness, pain etc. But at least I know what I'm dealing with.

 

[mike_kelly]

Efficacy studies? or is this a conspiracy?

It is well known that NSAIDs cause upper GI bleeds and heart problems. North of 10% of all hospitalizations are due to side effects of NSAIDS.

NSAIDs and Side Effects: Common & Urgent

NSAIDs may be the most commonly used medications around, but like any medication, they have side effects. Here's why NSAIDs can cause stomach upset and more. Plus, what to know about long-term use.

www.healthline.com

"In July 2015, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)Trusted Source strengthened its warning for all NSAIDs except aspirin about the increased risk of heart attack and stroke
NSAIDs cause an estimated 41,000 hospitalizations and 3,300 deathsTrusted Source each year among older adults."

 

[MaX-D]

I had knee pain for years. I found out through Squat University that my knee pain was caused by my hips being too tight. I started doing stretching and mobility exercises to loosen up my hips and my knee pain went away.

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[Jayem]

It is well known that NSAIDs cause upper GI bleeds and heart problems. North of 10% of all hospitalizations are due to side effects of NSAIDS.

NSAIDs and Side Effects: Common & Urgent

NSAIDs may be the most commonly used medications around, but like any medication, they have side effects. Here's why NSAIDs can cause stomach upset and more. Plus, what to know about long-term use.

www.healthline.com

"In July 2015, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)Trusted Source strengthened its warning for all NSAIDs except aspirin about the increased risk of heart attack and stroke
NSAIDs cause an estimated 41,000 hospitalizations and 3,300 deathsTrusted Source each year among older adults."

I'm not sure why it sounds like I'm pushing someone to take NSAIDs...I'm just saying that taking some organic butt cheese isn't a viable solution when it has no efficacy. There's a lot of hard work done by medical researchers, scientists and doctors to get to the point where a treatment is effective. If it were as easy as taking organic butt cheese, we would all be doing it. The OP really needs to consider their pain management, taking time off for recuperation, getting the underlying problem looked at, multiple opinions, etc.