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Hello All, this is my first time in these forums. Anyway, to start off I have a bit of an issue with my 2001 Cannondale Super V 500. While washing it recently I noticed that the simulated "seatstay" on the left side was bowed inwards and there was a crack at the bottom right above where it is welded onto the downtube. Now this bike is mostly used as an around town bike with slick tires on it, seldom going off road. The only "rough terrain" it endures is curb hopping and once or twice I slipped and crashed in soft mud. So I have no idea where this damage came from, and I am wondering whether anyone here thinks it is worth it to see if Cannondale can repair this as I just bought a Rush 800 to replace this bike right before discovering the damage. It would still be nice to have this a a backup bike for around town if it could be repaired, but is it possible that any of this damage could have been caused by me on accident? How good is Cannondale with their warranty? Thank you!
 

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Cannondales used to known as "crackandfails". Haven't heard that term used in a dogs age. Notify your Cannondale dealer and ask if they'll repair it under warranty. If not ask them how much to repair. While curb hopping and crashing don't usually crack a frame there's always that possibility. A few varibles you don't mention are where/how hard the crashes were. If you were hit be a car that would definitely be a possibility. You can see where this is going...good luck.
 

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Thanks for your reply! As for the crash, it was more of a slip. The front wheel "washed" out from under me twice and I went down in soft mud in a wide open field, hardly a violent crash when compared to the more serious riders who actually take these bikes down cliff faces like they were intended for. I am really curious however as to how the seatstay got bowed in, because it must have taken some serious force to do that. Thanks again!
 

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Are you the original owner?

If so, Cannondale will replace it. There may be a few issues, however. It will be replaced with a Jekyll, (If possible), or a Rush frame. Your short travel Headshock will not work with a Jekyll, and barely with a Rush.

Ask them about a Hardtail frame, as that will give the Headshock the best chance.

Is your bike equipped with discs?
 

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The bike came with Deore V-brakes that I upgraded to XTR, although it does have disc brake mounts. I was hoping it could be repaired because, as you may know, us Super V owners are very sentimental about our bikes. However if replacement is the only option, I know they stopped making the Super V after 2002 and the Jekyll after last year, so I guess it will have to be a Rush (if they indeed replace it). Would it be possible however, because I already have a Rush, to ask for a Scalpel or Prophet and offer to pay the difference if any? As for the fork, if it comes down to it I don't mind selling it and buying a lefty of Marzocchi on my own. It's not so much the fork, but the cost of new Lefty-compatible wheels I'm concerned about. Oh, and yes I am the original owner. In fact, this is my second Super V. My first was a 1997 SV700, but I outgrew the medium frame and had to go for an XL. I bought my red Rush 800 a couple of weekends ago. Thanks. :)
 

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Yes.

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The bike came with Deore V-brakes that I upgraded to XTR, although it does have disc brake mounts. I was hoping it could be repaired because, as you may know, us Super V owners are very sentimental about our bikes. However if replacement is the only option, I know they stopped making the Super V after 2002 and the Jekyll after last year, so I guess it will have to be a Rush (if they indeed replace it). Would it be possible however, because I already have a Rush, to ask for a Scalpel or Prophet and offer to pay the difference if any? As for the fork, if it comes down to it I don't mind selling it and buying a lefty of Marzocchi on my own. It's not so much the fork, but the cost of new Lefty-compatible wheels I'm concerned about. Oh, and yes I am the original owner. In fact, this is my second Super V. My first was a 1997 SV700, but I outgrew the medium frame and had to go for an XL. I bought my red Rush 800 a couple of weekends ago. Thanks. :)
The new frame may be disc only, so that is something to consider.

It is possible to upgrade to a frameset that you want. Ask your dealer.
 

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That won't be too much of a problem, I'll just wait until after law school to build it up with good components and ride my 800 for now. :) I think the Prophet and Rush are both the same price, at least for the complete bikes, but the Scalpel is a little more. Hopefully if I get a new frame it won't come in an ugly color haha. So the frame replacement is frame only, not fork? If so, I want to save up for a Lefty Speed Carbon.

Just one piece of advice that I would like to offer here to everyone, though, and that is never buy a bike like I did when you know that it is being replaced by a newer model. I bought the Super V when it was being replaced by the Jekyll at the time, and it was offered as an entry-level MTB. Well, it was obvious that Cannondale really didn't care too much for the Super V anymore as they were really trying to sell more Jekylls, and the bike was a problem from the start. Poor welds, flexy swingarm that killed rear V-brake effectiveness, and a botched swingarm design that restricted front derailleur movement to the lowest chainring. Not bashing C-dale here, and they have always been my favorite, but just giving some friendly advice if anyone here was still considering a Jekyll instead of going for the Rush.
 

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Curious question from me...

Is the Super V frame considered a classic? Or will it be one day?

Would you want to keep that bike... And maybe down the road get rid of it when it is considered the great grandfather of the carbon fiber frame?

Curiously,
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Yes, in a way it is a classic. It went into production in the early to mid 90s and underwent several changes, mainly to the swingarm. It was also offered back in '97 through I think '01 in a carbon fiber version caled the Raven. But really, it has created more of a cult following because it was one of the first really innovative full suspension designs, and had a very unique shape that got stares everywhere you went with it, even from non-bikers, at least before every Walmart and Target bike copied the design, and for good reason. The bike was also amazing ahead of its time because a properly equipped one can run circles around many of today's current models. I love my new Rush, but I will say that there are some things that the Super V will just kill it on. It was also very versatile, being a good lightweight frame that was good for XC as well as bordering on a FR or DH bike if a few changes were made. As for a collector's item, I don't know, but I don't think it will be worth much with the damage.
 

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Forget the carbon.

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That won't be too much of a problem, I'll just wait until after law school to build it up with good components and ride my 800 for now. :) I think the Prophet and Rush are both the same price, at least for the complete bikes, but the Scalpel is a little more. Hopefully if I get a new frame it won't come in an ugly color haha. So the frame replacement is frame only, not fork? If so, I want to save up for a Lefty Speed Carbon.

Just one piece of advice that I would like to offer here to everyone, though, and that is never buy a bike like I did when you know that it is being replaced by a newer model. I bought the Super V when it was being replaced by the Jekyll at the time, and it was offered as an entry-level MTB. Well, it was obvious that Cannondale really didn't care too much for the Super V anymore as they were really trying to sell more Jekylls, and the bike was a problem from the start. Poor welds, flexy swingarm that killed rear V-brake effectiveness, and a botched swingarm design that restricted front derailleur movement to the lowest chainring. Not bashing C-dale here, and they have always been my favorite, but just giving some friendly advice if anyone here was still considering a Jekyll instead of going for the Rush.
THe pricing is restrictive enough to make you buy the model with the fork you want, even if you strip it from there.

A new Speed carbon is more that ANY other ork in it's class.
 

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TalonSL said:
That won't be too much of a problem, I'll just wait until after law school to build it up with good components and ride my 800 for now. :) I think the Prophet and Rush are both the same price, at least for the complete bikes, but the Scalpel is a little more. Hopefully if I get a new frame it won't come in an ugly color haha. So the frame replacement is frame only, not fork? If so, I want to save up for a Lefty Speed Carbon.

Just one piece of advice that I would like to offer here to everyone, though, and that is never buy a bike like I did when you know that it is being replaced by a newer model. I bought the Super V when it was being replaced by the Jekyll at the time, and it was offered as an entry-level MTB. Well, it was obvious that Cannondale really didn't care too much for the Super V anymore as they were really trying to sell more Jekylls, and the bike was a problem from the start. Poor welds, flexy swingarm that killed rear V-brake effectiveness, and a botched swingarm design that restricted front derailleur movement to the lowest chainring. Not bashing C-dale here, and they have always been my favorite, but just giving some friendly advice if anyone here was still considering a Jekyll instead of going for the Rush.
The Jekyll is a good bike, and lacks any of the problems you've posted. The only problems they had were the early models (like the one I'm riding) supposedly had problems with the front triangle/seat tube area failing. I haven't had that problem, so I'm inclined to believe that some people were riding the bike beyond it's intended limits. Anyway, if I had a choice between a Jekyll or Rush, I don't think there'd be a moments hesitation in my mind.. get the newer bike.
 

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Jim311: Not saying it's a bad bike, and in fact I know it's an excellent bike according to many people, except some complaints about BB flex. My point, however, is that it would not be the wisest choice to buy a bike when it's clearly in its twilight years and being replaced. Usually manufacturers like C-Dale and Trek will cut all of its higher-end models and offer it as an entry-livel bike, and will largely blow off attention and support of the older model in favor of the newer model it just spent millions developing. :) I'm sure your Jekyll is fine, but if someone was considering buying one right now with the Rush/Prophet replacing it I'd think really hard. :)

damion: Here's the real question, is the Left Carbon worth it? I know it's really expensive as one dealer quoted me $950 for it, but is the half pound it saves noticeable in the performance of the bike? I am really debating this hard because I am already pretty much set on the Lefty being very satisfied with my Rush, even considering replacing the Super Fatty on my Super V with one before it cracked. However, it probably would be better for me to save the money for the expensive new wheelset and disc brakes I will need. :)
 

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Why would you even consider buying a brand new Lefty at full retail ????
Pick one up on E Bay like I did .

I bought a 05 Speed DLR that came with a stem and rim with a 6 bolt hub .
I swapped the spokes and hub with the ones out of one of my wheels which
had a 4 bolt hub and then sold it and my Lefty on E Bay to almost make the
cash out lay of the DLR purchase zero .

Check it out , there are lots of them there .
 

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How much dd you pay for your Lefty? What condition was it in? I looked myself on Ebay a while ago, but unfortunately there were no Leftys for sale that time. I think your suggestion is good thougn because I will also require disc brakes and a new wheelset that is compatible. I'll also need a new drivetrain because my old one is pretty worn out. I thought about turning this into a special freaky-light Scalpel project, but that depends on the costs. I think I'll play my cards and just wait for the '07 frames to com out and then bring in my frame.
 

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The Lefty with bearings and cups , stem and rim with 6 bolt hub was $427 U.S.
It was an 05 model that a guy tried & didn't like so it was mint !!!

I looked tonight and found at least 5 Leftys although most were older models .

Lots of Lefty wheel sets ......... CrossMax's too .
I just bought a set of one year old Avid 160mm rotors for $40 Can only to
find a couple days later , two (new in package) Hayes wavy rotors for a starting
bid of $9.99 !!!
Oh well , at least the Avids are lighter .

There are tons of deals out there , it just takes a little patience , timing and luck
to find them at the right time .

.....Craig
 

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Freaky light?

Stick with the HeadShock. THat is the platform that is the least costly, is a good mate to the Scalpel, and is lighter.
 

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Hopefully I can get a Scalpel, although the paint probably won't match. :) Still, it depends on whether they give me a Scalpel or a Rush as my LBS said I'd probably get from Cannondale. If they give me a Rush, I'm kind of stuck with having to get a Lefty or some other fork with an adaptor. I will ask for a Scalpel, however I know they tend to be a bit pricier than other FS C-dales and I won't go for it if they ask me to pay an $800 difference, which I wouldn't be at all surprised if they did. :)
 

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Oh, one more thing damion, if they give me a Scalpel will I be on my own for the rear shock as well? I know it uses a different short-travel air shock while my Super V has a longer-travel coil.
 
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