It's tough out there.
Maybe cycling in general is more popular over there because of the gas prices? We might get there...lassiar said:Not to derail the topic, but I think it's hard to examine the microcosm of XC racing without looking at the overall state of pro cycling in the US, which is not good.
I don't know why the european models work better for cycling, but they do. More money, fans, and events - maybe intrinsic or maybe engineered.
Cycling as a sport in general has a lot more history and respect in Europe compared to the US. Before Greg LeMond starting doing well over in France, rarely did the US tune into any race at all. The TdF is over 100 years old.letitsnow said:Maybe cycling in general is more popular over there because of the gas prices? We might get there...
Very true. We all only owned one or two bikes back then, and they both were XC's.rydbyk said:Bummer. Spectator sports that tons of people can relate to is where the money goes. Mtb just aint that unfortunately.
Some day....maybe. Tons of people mtb, but what I see most of are weekend warriors with 6" travel all mountain bikes that don't even know that XC racing exists.
Everyone rode XC rigs back on the 90s, so I think that more people could relate to the race scene back then. It wasn't a big scene back then either, but I don't recall big races getting cancelled.
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I know USA Cycling is not flush with cash, but it seems like this is where they need to step in and help cover the cost of UCI classification. I also think the manufacturers with teams that benefit from the UCI classification should step it up as well.mtbscott said:As someone who has been involved in putting on many races, this cancellation doesn't really shock me, it's much like BUMP's Bump and Grind pulling out of the PRO-XCT last year. The expenses and hassles of having your race UCI/PRO-XCT for the relative handful of athletes that benefit from it just isn't worth the investment. You can get 90% of the attendance for 50% of the cost by just having an all amateur race with a non-UCI Pro class offered. In the end, who are you serving, the handful of pro's or the hundreds of amateurs your event draws?
In a perfect world, you have both, and for the most part that takes deep pockets sponsorship from both inside and outside the cycling industry.
I am not sure how easy that would be to do, but I really like that idea. It makes sense IMO.Fishlips said:I know USA Cycling is not flush with cash, but it seems like this is where they need to step in and help cover the cost of UCI classification. I also think the manufacturers with teams that benefit from the UCI classification should step it up as well.
XC racing is just never going to be a huge spectator sport, so it will always be hard (but not impossible) to attract outside sponsors. However, with the huge increase in interest in endurance events and the large participation numbers at those events, there is certainly a growing potential audience. It seems to me that an interesting idea would be to pair and XC race with a large endurance event. You get the large number of participants and their large group of support crews as a captive audience for your XC race. I also think a multi-sport events like the Teva games makes sense for a pro level XC race. Again, you get a larger group for sponsors to reach out to.
There has to be solutions to make this work, particularly at this time when mountain bike racing seems to be really growing. Locally we have three thriving weeknight race series within an hours drive. One long standing weekend race series with 15 or so races and a new weekend series with 4 events. We also have some relatively new endurance races that are very popular and fill up their spots quickly.
It would definitely take the right venue and would still probably be difficult, but it may be one way to take advantage of the endurance surge.rydbyk said:I am not sure how easy that would be to do, but I really like that idea. It makes sense IMO.
Perhaps the pros should get with the program and just start dominating the endurance events and shift away from the traditonal XC format.Fishlips said:It would definitely take the right venue and would still probably be difficult, but it may be one way to take advantage of the endurance surge.
there are a few races now that are starting to offer big purses. though they are few and far between. Whiskey 50 is going to have a huge pro female turnout, everyone is gunning for the big bucks! Allison's dreams were centered on XCO. we will see where that goes, but this is going to be a tough year with the injuries. maybe switch focus to marathon and longer races, she does like those a lot.rydbyk said:Perhaps the pros should get with the program and just start dominating the endurance events and shift away from the traditonal XC format.
That would work IMO. Seems like the endurance scene in S. Cal. is a bit bigger than the XC scene.
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big surprise there. it's people like you that drive sponsors away, you're not that great so quit trying to convince people you are.:madman:whybotherme said:only had a couple rides under my belt after being broken most of the early part of the year).as far as sponsors go, things are indeed bleak.