Your talking about quite a large weight difference there. And for racing that weight difference is HUGE!keypocket said:No real good reason. I have just been thinking that if you want to ride tubeless, why dont' you ride tubeless. I hated my tubeless rims at first, but after adding Stans sealant to them, now I love them. I'm building a new set of wheels with Chris King Hubs and the Mavic UST rims. It actually isn't as heavy as you would think. You can run regular tires (right brands) with the sealant and you are basically at the same place. With the Stans rims you still need the whole rimstrip etc. It just comes down to whether you need the extra grams for racing or if you can give up a few for convenience and stability. There is something to be said for something built specifically for it's purpose.
Mavic's UST rim weighs in at around 500g when you include the FORE-nipples and the long, 16mm brass nipples you'll have to use. Compare that to 410g for the ZTR355 including the rimstrip, or 365 with just tape and a valve. This works well for most tires.DIRT BOY said:I think the tolta differnce after Stan's and UST rims is 45-75g per rim. Unless you are in the Olympics or a Pro Racer that weight difference will not affect your performance and time. yes we are weight weenies thoughand that includes Mavic or DT rims with the Eclipse Kit.
Also do you wnat your valve stem coming off the rimstrip during the race and giving you an DNF? This happens all the time with stan's rimstrips.
Although I do not own them, I was present at my lbs when a wheelset was being built up with them... although very light the quality looked suspect, there was a big weld glob where the two ends met and from what the mechanic told me the rim was proving tougher than normal to keep straight (maybe a isolated problem). The rim's light weight is mainly due to the absence of spoke eyelets which may or may not be an issue.Trevor! said:What's the consensus about Stans Rims - I am still on the fence about these.
They have been out long enough and I assume some weight weenies have had experience?
Cheers
Trevor!
Ole said:Mavic's UST rim weighs in at around 500g when you include the FORE-nipples and the long, 16mm brass nipples you'll have to use. Compare that to 410g for the ZTR355 including the rimstrip, or 365 with just tape and a valve. This works well for most tires.
As for valves separating from the rim strip, that't not much of a problem with the second generation rim strip, and not at all if you seal the rim with tape instead of the rim strip.
Ole.
It's a shame that only the fence ridders responded, as I know there are some satisfied customers. I'll stay clear of the tech talk and simply say that something does not have to have a great "finish" to be a fine product. I've been ridding mine hard for a while - they are light, strong, and never leak - I go from week to week without adding any air whatsoever. At any rate, you need to be comfortable with your purchase, so wait if you must!!Trevor! said:Ugh, I have heard the word finish and quality too much in the same sentence. I think yet again I will have to give them a miss - I always think will I get them and sit on the fence for too long and then decide nope.
Perhaps when I hear more good stuff and more positive finish comments I will make a move for them.
Once you get some good saddle time with the rims post a review if you could. It would be much appreciated.ctxcrossx said:I like them. Unfortunately, I am one of the masses who have yet to ride them. I do have a pair though, I just haven't completed the bike build yet. For those who complain about the finish quality, just think about the different brands out there. I'd much rather have a rim with no logos (the sticker peels off quite easily) and have an industrial look to them than I have a wheelset with all those horrible graphics. My wheelset has black rims, black king hubs, with black supercomp spokes. They look great! Definitely personal preference though. I'll definitely post more information when I ride them.
Chris
I've raced quite a bit on stans. I've never had a valve stem come off? what the hell? I run 50 psi or more a lot of the time.DIRT BOY said:This has been discussed many, many times in the past. If you are going to run lower pressure, then a stronger UST rims will survive longer. See running tires at lower pressure you risk possibly denting the rim. UST rims can survive better and hence why Mavíc made them stronger.
I think the tolta differnce after Stan's and UST rims is 45-75g per rim. Unless you are in the Olympics or a Pro Racer that weight difference will not affect your performance and time.
yes we are weight weenies thoughand that includes Mavic or DT rims with the Eclipse Kit.
Also do you wnat your valve stem coming off the rimstrip during the race and giving you an DNF? This happens all the time with stan's rimstrips.
Now the finish it not that nice on the rims and I have only heard of a 3-4 issues with something going wrong with Stan's so it's your choice.
50psi is a bit high isn't it.mattv2099 said:I've raced quite a bit on stans. I've never had a valve stem come off? what the hell? I run 50 psi or more a lot of the time.
All of these reviews should be considered against the fact that the rims cost $110 each (last I checked) which is twice as much as other rims.Trevor! said:What's the consensus about Stans Rims - I am still on the fence about these.
They have been out long enough and I assume some weight weenies have had experience?
Cheers
Trevor!
Trevor! said:Once you get some good saddle time with the rims post a review if you could. It would be much appreciated.