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Stan's No Tubes 29er Set with Salsa Semi Rims

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Posted this in the Wheels forum, but thought it might be more appropriate in the 29er forum as the rims are 29ers.

Has anyone tried putting the Stan's No Tube 29er Set on Salsa Semi Rims? The set says they work only on the Salsa Delgado's, which is 22.5 mm wide. The Semi Rims are 30 mm wide.

There is a 7.5 mm gap between the rim width and tape. Will there be leakage problems? Any other solutions?
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Are you talking about the rubber rim strip?

I have mine set up with stans yellow tape. You want to get it all the way from edge to edge inside the rim for proper sealing. Being they don't make yellow tape wide enough it takes two goes around, one for each "side" so to speak. Right over the bead lock ridges.

Works.

With looser tires I often use a layer of electrical tape on top of this. This isn't really durable but it will last a mounting or two. Makes hand inflation sooo much easier and also locks the tire on better (tighter). This works on Stans rims too. I don't have a compressor, just a pedros floor pump.

Just did a snow ride with 17-18 psi front (ralph 2.4) and rear (xdx tlr) and no burping even with sliding around. Ralph mounted up with yellow+electrical tape and xdx with yellow only.

Dunno about the rubber rim strips. The Flow strip MIGHT work. Dunno.
Just talked to an LBS here and they said to cut up an inner tube to size and mount it on the rim. Works, they say. They didn't say to use a 29er tube or 26er tube, though.

Anyone try this?
hchchch said:
Just talked to an LBS here and they said to cut up an inner tube to size and mount it on the rim. Works, they say. They didn't say to use a 29er tube or 26er tube, though.

Anyone try this?
Look up Ghetto Tubeless...works quite well on most rims. For a 29er rim I use a 24" tube for extra tight fit, but a 26" tube works fine too. I prefer schrader tubes for ease of adding sealant (and ease of finding 24" tubes) but Continental, Schwalbe, and Q-Tubes make removable valve core 26" presta tubes that will work good too.

Here is a pictorial on my blog
hchchch said:
Posted this in the Wheels forum, but thought it might be more appropriate in the 29er forum as the rims are 29ers.

Has anyone tried putting the Stan's No Tube 29er Set on Salsa Semi Rims? The set says they work only on the Salsa Delgado's, which is 22.5 mm wide. The Semi Rims are 30 mm wide.

There is a 7.5 mm gap between the rim width and tape. Will there be leakage problems? Any other solutions?
They will convert much like the older Salsa Delgado Disc rims. The Stans 26" Freeride strip will work, but you'll have to drill out the valve hole large enough for the Schrader valve to fit through. Or go "ghetto tubeless" using the split tube method for a nice burp free conversion. Look up the "successful tubeless conversion" thread on this forum.

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hchchch, I run the 29"semis and converted them to ghetto tubeless. Works very good! Only thing you need is a cut 24" innertube as rimstrip and some stan's or cofféé latex.

here is a pic > https://flic.kr/p/4143410194
cheers.
I'd say mine burp same or less than similar stans rims with my current setup. I seriously don't know the last time I burped a tire and I ride it hard.

So, IMO, full on ghetto tubeless not required with decent tires. The worst tire I had was the Stout and it sucked the same on Stans rim.
I am glad you posted this. I am getting ready to order a Mamasita that comes with these rims. One disappointment were the rims are not a tubless rim. I wanted to at least try tubless out and see what all the tubless praises were about. Looks like there is a chance I can at least experiment with the idea. If any of you have some step by step pictures on how you did this for us novices that would be great.
here you go..

first use electrical tape 2 layers to cover the spoke holes and then you watch the vid.

part 1.
part 2.

good luck.
Just want to give an update:

Since I already got the Stan's NoTube 29er kit, I was willing to try using the existing kit on my Salsa Semi's despite having the Semi's having 30mm width and the rim tape officially valid for the 22.5 mm width of the Delgado's.

Conclusion: It worked.

The rim tape did not cover bead to bead as the kit said it should, but I tried anyway as I had nothing to lose. I followed the instructions according to the kit less soap and water with the addition of a friend constantly pumping air, compressor style. Shake and turn, pump some more, and slowly the bubbles of sealant began to subside. A final wipe of leaked sealant, and the tire was sealed.

Test rode, pumped again, and today did a test on the trail. No problems whatsoever.

Tires used: Kenda 29er Nevegal 2.2, Kenda 29er Small Block 8 2.1
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